Southern Utah PostMormon Lecture Series February 7th, 2016- Joe Rawlins
The Southern Utah PostMormon Association has another great lecture lined up first Sunday in February at 2 pm at the Red Lion Hotel, 850 South Bluff Street. We will be welcoming a guest speaker from northern Utah (Lehi):
Joe Rawlins is the ex-Mormon author of The Korihor Argument: A Missionary’s Journey Out of Mormonism. Rawlins grew up in Mesa, AZ as a devout Mormon and confronted his faith in Mormonism and in God while serving as a missionary in Perú.
Now an atheist and humanist, Rawlins writes and lectures on finding self-driven purpose, leaving religion and creating enduring inter-faith families. He has committed to donate a portion of the sale of each copy of The Korihor Argument to help children of Peru, where he served as a Mormon missionary in 1999-2001.
Joe has so many topics that sound interesting it was hard to decide what he should prepare for our group, so we left it up to him.
Joe is famous for secretly recording his own excommunication proceedings:
I haven’t yet read your letter, and may not if it is as ” big” as you indicate it is. I see this was posted in April. Have you presented it to your family by now, July 4 th, 2012? If so, did you find that it was also too ” big” for them to read?
The family was given the letter some time ago on both my side as well as my wife’s. It was given to them in full and complete format as it is presented here. I don’t know how much of the letter each one read, but it definitely made some “waves” within the family circle. Most took it relatively well, and even commented back with the usual expected responses. However, a few family members on my wife’s side took it pretty hard and I think are still dealing with the fall out. At the end of the day, it accomplished what I wanted which is to make my position about the church and intentions crystal clear and as transparent as possible. Anyway, thanks for your comments and I guess you can form your own opinion if you decide to read it!
Isn’t it sad we have to go to such lengths to defend our personal beliefs and decisions? I do like your letter. In my letter to my parents I am also going to include the points about JS’s treasure-hunting trial, his translation with a stone in a hat, and the huge polygamy scandals. However, my parents have begged me to not discuss any of this with my siblings, so my siblings can’t ever see a letter without seriously pissing off my parents. More manipulation and brainwashing even though we’re all adults. Did anyone get mad about you spreading your so-called “anti-mormon” points in thet letter?
I did not get the chance to read all of your letter, but what I did get the chance to read was wonderfully honest and thorough. I recently—actually yesterday—gave my parents a letter (much shorter than yours) and I am now preparing for the aftermath of my honesty as well. It’s good to hear stories from others who are going through the same thing. I hope your family accepts and loves you for your decision.
Excellent letter!!! I am currently having a hard time “breaking the news” to my family and even friends that have known me since I was a baby. I really think I will use a lot of this letter and give it to them. It really helps, Thank you!
It’s so funny. For as big a deal as the church makes that it is true and you have to find it out yourself… they are very hostile to the opposite position. Further, it takes WAY more effort to get out of the church than it does to get into it. I wonder why that is…? Only reason I can think of is the church is a trap.
Mormonism seems to shy away from reality, free-agency, and, most of all, the truth.
Mormons prefer the path of least resistance, and thereby resist anything scary, mystical or of the spiritually unknown. Perhaps your letter is this to them: scary, like a naked person!
Just last year I was thinking about how to fix “the news” (it isn’t broken until people ignore it) [me-ex-mo] trying to decide what to write or say to individuals-everybody, etc. - should they ask, or when they spy me enjoying life with a cold, or “hot, drink” in my grip - and they found out anyway, by ward gossip-#gone, and then I didn’t have to come out (as honest and wise) and share the truth, which, by nature of being a LDM (later day mormon) one claims so intent on believing in/ discovering for themselves (had the church not cut them off from stark-reality).
I think I tried to convince others of the reality of life and human-kindness as a youth, and, as I remember, they treated it similarly, even ignoring sheer brilliance and clear foresight.
We don’t want to say “told you so” but we also don’t want them sleeping through the best parts of the movie.
Thanks for all the comments. For some reason, due to a technical glitch, I was unable to see this page or replies (besides the first few) until recently. I have asked Jeff (admin) about this but not sure what caused it. Regardless, I appreciate feedback and wish you all success in your personal journeys!
Greetings. I read your letter and would like to commend you for writing it! It seems to me that you had to defend your position, please correct me if I’m wrong. If is was the case I hope you came out on the other side all the better.