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I have noticed, since leaving the morg, I do not think critically, especially when I read.  I suspect I have been trained by my past to just accept what is said/ written.  I would like to interact with others intelligently, and I need help in this skill.  I did not go to college, so no training there.  What do you suggest?

I notice it was difficult for me to admit this short coming to anyone- more leftovers!

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I think that's the first big hurdle, just realizing how susceptible we are as humans to emotional decision-making, to trusting what others in our community say, and to the myriad logical fallacies that abound in informal debate. It's been mentioned before, but Carl Sagan's The Demon-Haunted World is a good primer on both science and critical thinking.

I'd also spend some time on Wikipedia just reading about logical fallacies. Try here, for starters. You very quickly find that most arguments that are made (on both sides) are filled with fallacious reasoning. That doesn't necessarily make their point wrong, but at least knowing this gives you a basis for assessing it.
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Great topic.  We talk lots about thinking critically, but not about what it means to do it.  IMO, I think it starts with a stance toward the information you are reading.  You can start by asking yourself:  what is the author trying to convince me of?  Then trace back the author's reasoning as to how he got there.  That gives you two things to look at:  (1) How good is the factual information the author relies on?  (2) How does the author get from the facts to her conclusion?

Carl Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit is a good guide for examining both these questions.  IMO, the most critical step is the part about "spinning alternative hypotheses."  That can sometimes be hard to do, but it will often reveal the strengths and weaknesses of an argument.

Here is a pretty good article on arguments and logical fallacies.

I'm also hoping to include books on critical thinking skills in the book club...

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I would have to second what has been said.  I especially enjoyed reading carl sagan's Demon Haunted World, in which the balony detection kit is located. 

One way I especially like to brush up on my critically thinking skills is to listen to podcasts designed to tackle this issue.  If you have a i-pod you can listen to these podcasts when you travel in the car (my favorite) or just download them to your computer.  The following are my favorites:

Logically Critical : (Found at: http://www.logicallycritical.net/Welcome.html)  My favorite episode on your topic is episode 21 CT102: Logical Fallacies.   The guy who does this podcasts uses many soundeffects as well as varying his voice, thereby creating a listening experience that will not cause you to fall asleep at the wheel.  All his other podcasts are great and thought provoking as well.

The Skeptics Guide to the Universe :  This is a podcast with a panal of 4 people who talk about current science, social, and religious events with a skeptical slant.  They even have bits in it that deal with logical fallacies.  Additionally you can go to their website and explore their posting of logical fallacies (http://www.theskepticsguide.org/logicalfallacies.asp)

Skeptoid : (http://skeptoid.com/)This podcast usually runs only 5-15 minutes in length in which the broadcaster covers one topic in semi-depth while using logical thinking.  Also not a bad bet for those with little time.

The triad of Reason (starring the infedel guy) (http://infidelguy.libsyn.com/) and Dogma Free America  (http://www.dogmafreeamerica.com/) are not really lessons in logical thinking directly, but talk about religion gone awry across the world and various religous topics that someone recovering from mormonism may find interesting.

IMO, it has been very helpful to listen to these podcasts on a weekly basis.  This way I consistanly hear critical thinking which in turn helps me sharpen my skills.  Because you know, you just aren't going to hear it that much around you with Mormons around   I hope that this helps you out and happy learning. 

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I would have to second what has been said.  I especially enjoyed reading carl sagan's Demon Haunted World, in which the balony detection kit is located. 

One way I especially like to brush up on my critically thinking skills is to listen to podcasts designed to tackle this issue.  If you have a i-pod you can listen to these podcasts when you travel in the car (my favorite) or just download them to your computer.  The following are my favorites:

Logically Critical : (Found at: http://www.logicallycritical.net/Welcome.html)  My favorite episode on your topic is episode 21 CT102: Logical Fallacies.   The guy who does this podcasts uses many soundeffects as well as varying his voice, thereby creating a listening experience that will not cause you to fall asleep at the wheel.  All his other podcasts are great and thought provoking as well.

The Skeptics Guide to the Universe :  This is a podcast with a panal of 4 people who talk about current science, social, and religious events with a skeptical slant.  They even have bits in it that deal with logical fallacies.  Additionally you can go to their website and explore their posting of logical fallacies (http://www.theskepticsguide.org/logicalfallacies.asp)

Skeptoid : (http://skeptoid.com/)This podcast usually runs only 5-15 minutes in length in which the broadcaster covers one topic in semi-depth while using logical thinking.  Also not a bad bet for those with little time.

The triad of Reason (starring the infedel guy) (http://infidelguy.libsyn.com/) and Dogma Free America  (http://www.dogmafreeamerica.com/) are not really lessons in logical thinking directly, but talk about religion gone awry across the world and various religous topics that someone recovering from mormonism may find interesting.

IMO, it has been very helpful to listen to these podcasts on a weekly basis.  This way I consistanly hear critical thinking which in turn helps me sharpen my skills.  Because you know, you just aren't going to hear it that much around you with Mormons around   I hope that this helps you out and happy learning. 



I'm a kindofa podcast nut.  I've never listened to Logically Critical ( but its going on my list now), but I can heartily endorse the others.  I'd also add Point of Inquiry, official podcast of the Center for Inquiry and Skepticality, official podcast of Skeptic Magazine and my sentimental favorite.  (OK, I'll admit it, I love Swoopy....).  
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Thanks to each of you for your suggestions.  It looks like I have a good variety of ways to learn.  I don't have an ipod- I can not keep up with all the new stuff.  I don't even know what an mp3 player does!!
It looks like I won't be participating in the book club just yet.

sincere thanks again to each of you
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Carl Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit is a good guide for examining both these questions.  IMO, the most critical step is the part about "spinning alternative hypotheses."  That can sometimes be hard to do, but it will often reveal the strengths and weaknesses of an argument.

Here is a pretty good article on arguments and logical fallacies.

I'm also hoping to include books on critical thinking skills in the book club...

Nice links...thanks dbradhud.
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Yes, I first learned about logical fallacies just before leaving the church.  I was participating in an IRC chat channel, and though I had argued many-a-point in many-a-channel, for some reason these guys were RATIONAL. 

I'd be arguing along, using my normal techniques (which seemed rational at the time), when someone would say, "Now that's a straw man argument, I won't accept it," or "Appeal to authority!"  I was like what??? 

Worse, they would paste links to websites which refuted my "facts" as being urban ledgends, or stastitically wrong.  They would back up their own points with links to their own facts.

It trained me.  I found myself looking up all these fallacies, so I could call BS when ever they were misusing an accusation.  I learned to look up my facts online before claiming them to be fact.  (Found out a lot of them were WRONG! How embarassing!)  I learned to find counter-references to the references they threw at me.

My brain re-wired.  Shortly thereafter, I wasn't republican anymore, I was libertarian.  (It wasn't like THESE guys were libertarians trying to convert me.  I arrived at this conclusion using the research and critical thinking skills I obtained from them.)  Another few months, and I wasn't Mormon anymore either.

A book I'd like to recommend is How to Lie with Statistics.  This will help you understand statistics when they're quoted, and how they can be twisted to prove all kinds of points not inherent in the data.

If you want to do more reading on logical fallacies (though online is a GREAT place to start), "With Good Reason" will give you a print version.

If you're a woman, The Reasonable Woman by Wendy McElroy talks about critical thinking skills specifically for women, who have a different social experience than men.

Another great skill that I got from my Dad actually, and I'm not sure if I've ever seen this in print.  It's the idea of a Reality Check.  When you read or hear something, ask yourself if that sounds about right.  Compare it with other information you have.  For instance, when I hear a statistic about how many people die of X, I compare that to the number of people I know live in America: 300 million.  When I saw an ad that said 150,000 children die each year from second hand smoke, I did some quick estimates.  300 million people, say maybe 1/3rd are children.  That's 100 million.  150,000 out of 100 million seems like way too many kids to be dying of something like second hand smoke.  Car accidents, I could believe.  But with a number this high for an indirect inhalent that takes a couple of years to kill (you have to actually GET cancer first, then die of it), it just didn't seem right.  At these rates, kids all over would be getting cancer and in 10-20 years, there wouldn't be any kids left.

This took very little effort to do in my head.  I didn't have to look anything up to cast that statistic into question.  Same with other things, like stories, etc.  Constantly ask "why?" and "how?" 

"Would somebody really do that?" 

"If the planes that hit the WTC building were actually empty, what happened to all the people that turned up missing?  What about their families?  How does a conspiracy with that many people involved keep any secrets?"

"Why would X go to so much effort to do Y, when it would have been much easier to do X?"

The point of the reality check isn't to find the actual answer.  It is to determine at quick glance if what you're hearing is within the realm of reason or believability.

The other thing I live by now is to not take a strong opinion or stance on anything unless I can defend it.  If I haven't done the research to become convinced myself (research on BOTH sides), I will not argue for or against it.  I might mention "I heard such and so, but I haven't confirmed it."  But I disclaim that my information may be wobbly.  Or I might say, "Some people strongly disagree with your position, and they claim to have evidence to back it up, even though I haven't looked into it myself."

I guess I spent too many years parroting a lot of BS, repeating stories that were flat out lies, that I never want to do that again. :)  Intellectual honesty is too important to me.

Oh, one more thing (now I'm rambling).  Wendy McElroy said in her book: Don't be afraid to be wrong.  She points out that in our society, we talk about the winners and losers of arguments.  She says if you leave an discussion/debate having LEARNED something, or corrected a wrong conception, or brought your thinking closer to Truth, then YOU are the winner, even though the other person was right.

That is a very important thing I have to remind myself.  It's less important to be RIGHT, and more important to learn.

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Thinking critically is a skill that one acquires over time and with effort. I think there are a few things people can keep in the back of their mind to help them be what I like to call "wise consumers of information" that are easy to tick off as you are listening to information.

 

1. What is the source of this information?

2. What motivates this source to share information with me? What agendas might the source have?

3. What are the limitations of the information?

4. What are the source's biases or limitations?

5. How accurate is this information?

6. What do critics say? (then think critically about the responses)

7. How does this information fit (or not fit) with the "big picture" of other knowlege I have?

8. What is amgiuous, unclear, or unknown related to this information?

 

Just being able to do a quick and dirty once over on information often quickly clears up maybe 60-70% of BS, misinformation, misdirection, and misuse of a particular item of misinformation.

 
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I don't have time to read this thread right now but will come back later. I'm posting here to get the option of having an email sent to me when someone adds to this thread so I don't forget about it. I'm one who is VERY interested in learning more about critical thinking, thanks for bringing up the topic!
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Oh, one more thing (now I'm rambling).  Wendy McElroy said in her book: Don't be afraid to be wrong.  She points out that in our society, we talk about the winners and losers of arguments.  She says if you leave an discussion/debate having LEARNED something, or corrected a wrong conception, or brought your thinking closer to Truth, then YOU are the winner, even though the other person was right.

That is a very important thing I have to remind myself.  It's less important to be RIGHT, and more important to learn.

Luna



I think you've captured the most important point of thinking critically -- you win when you move closer to the truth.
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Excellent suggestions all around.  It would be nice if critical and logical thinking were part of human nature, but clearly they are not.  It is much more natural for us to accept what others tell us—especially what adults tell us when we are young.  I suspect this is a genetic adaption to speed the learning of survival techniques since we aren't really born with any.  (I don't currently have any hard evidence to support that, though, so it remains only a suspicion.)

I have but one point to add to that which has already been said.  Don't get too attached to your own ideas, hypotheses, preconceived notions or beliefs.  Scientists and researchers the world over are constantly uncovering new evidence—some of which will support existing theories and some of which will contravene existing theories.  What's important is to realize that no theory, hypothesis or assumption is above re-evaluation based on new, credible and verifiable evidence.

If ever you hear the words "You can't convince me..." escape someone's lips, you know you are dealing with an unreasonable person since he or she is not open to new evidence.  That doesn't make him or her necessarily wrong, mind you, it just means you should probably treat what he or she says with extra caution.

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Red Pill:Thanks to each of you for your suggestions.  It looks like I have a good variety of ways to learn.  I don't have an ipod- I can not keep up with all the new stuff.  I don't even know what an mp3 player does!!
It looks like I won't be participating in the book club just yet.

sincere thanks again to each of you

You can download iTunes for free for Mac or Windows and use it to subscribe to and listen to podcasts without owning an iPod or indeed any MP3 player.  There are also lots and lots of other free applications for Mac, Windows and Linux that can help you do the same thing.
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