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I've been lurking minimally, and haven't posted in months - or maybe a year. So, hello Grape, Flat, Hiker, Jeff, etc... Long time.

Anyway, I turned to one of my favorite songs today, and thought of you all, and decided to share. The lyrics seem appropriate for this community, and I encourage you to give it a try. Feel free to post links/lyrics from some of your favorite heathen music.

 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEVNog0Zh4g

 

Demons & Wizards

My Last Sunrise 

 

The lamb, the rose
The don't exist
The lamb, the rose
They don't exist

These are my last words
I need to rest
In fear and anger
I'll lay down my head
A faithless spirit in a broken man

Everything is burning
Rotten flesh keeps burning
It's MY LAST SUNRISE in fear

The grail's in pieces
All the bliss is gone
The rose has dried out
And the lamb got slaughtered long ago
The hope became another lie
Like the nonexisting father god
I'll close my eyes, goodbye

Don't wait for me on the other side
Everything is burning
Rotten flesh keeps burning
It's MY LAST SUNRISE in fear
Don't wait for me on the other side

Golgotha - had seen nothing else but
A carpenter's death
Golgotha - not more maybe not even that

Suffer, grief and pain
Have driven me insane

Can't you see

There's nothing real

But you and I

And I say goodbye

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This one is dedicated to all of the kids out there.... They Might be Giants put out a good one.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty33v7UYYbw

 

Science is real

From the Big Bang to DNA

Science is real From evolution to the Milky Way

I like the stories About angels, unicorns and elves

Now I like those stories

As much as anybody else

But when I'm seeking knowledge

Either simple or abstract

The facts are with science

The facts are with science

Science is real Science is real

Science is real Science is real

 

From anatomy to geology

Science is real

From astrophysics to biology

A scientific theory Isn't just a hunch or guess

It's more like a question

That's been put through a lot of tests

And when a theory emerges

Consistent with the facts

The proof is with science

The truth is with science

Science is real

Science is real 

 
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Supporting Caste by Propagandhi:

 

When the credits finally roll for this, the worst story ever told, don’t bother sifting through the names for yours or anyone you know. Unless they were by chance a shepherd king, a virgin birth, a resurrection, a messianic prince or some such childish thing. You can storm the edit suite or move to block its theatrical release, but I think we can safely guarantee that there will be no revisions to the script made on behalf of a supporting cast(e). Because history exalts only the pornography of force-that of murderers and psychopaths (the rest of us, of course, stricken from the narrative wholesale: a back drop to the tale)-as we, the two-bits, are ushered on and swiftly off this stage with the jawbones of asses. No stirring curtain call for the masses. No floral bouquet. No breaking of legs. No recurring role. No artistic control. And so in these days, in this terminal phase, it’s all left to chance. A piece of advice: if you’re cast on thin ice, you may as well dance. Do what you feel you must, but as for me I was not put upon this earth to subjugate or serve. 

 
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Music is an awesome thing.

 

Muse put out a new song recently that I like. :D Plus muse is awesome. 

 

Also. You look slightly like Hugh Jackman. 83; I'm a nerd, i know. 

 

The paranoia is in bloom, the PR
The transmissions will resume
They'll try to push drugs
Keep us all dumbed down and hope that
We will never see the truth around
(So come on!)

Another promise, another scene, another
A package not to keep us trapped in greed
With all the green belts wrapped around our minds
And endless red tape to keep the truth confined
(So come on!)

They will not force us
They will stop degrading us
They will not control us
We will be victorious

Interchanging mind control
Come let the revolution take its toll if you could
Flick the switch and open your third eye, you'd see that
We should never be afraid to die
(So come on!)

Rise up and take the power back, it's time that
The fat cats had a heart attack, you know that
Their time is coming to an end
We have to unify and watch our flag ascend

They will not force us
They will stop degrading us
They will not control us
We will be victorious

 
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It's kind of an oldie, but I like Gloria Gaynor's "I Am What I Am":

 

I am what I am - I am my own special creation.

So come take a look, give me the hook or the ovation.

It's my world

That I want to have a little pride in - my world,

And it's not a place I have to hide in

Life's not worth a damn, `til you can say:,I am what I am"

 

I am what I am, I don't want praise

I don't want pity - I bang my own drum,

some think it's noise, I think it's pretty.

And so what if I love each feather and each spangle,

Why not try and see things from a diff'rent angle?

Your life is a sham, `til you can shout out:,I am what I am"

 

I am what I am and what I am needs no excuses

I deal my own deck - sometimes the ace, sometimes the deuces.

It's one life and there's no return and no deposit:

One life, so it's time to open up your closet.

Life's not worth a damn `til you can shout out:,I am what I am"

 

I am what I am, am what I am needs no excuses.

I deal my own deck - sometimes the ace, sometimes the deuces.

It's one life, and there's no return and no deposit:

One life, so it's time 

 

 

 

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“Man’s refusal to see the obvious, his longing for a better deal even if it is based on pure fiction, his determination to remain blind have no limits.”
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Tim Minchin

George Hrab 

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Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn’t go away.


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Two lines from Morrissey's "Heaven knows I'm Miserable Now" kept repeating themselves in my mind those last months of torturous church attendance:

"In my life,

Why do I give valuable time

To people who don't care if I live or die?"

 

and

 

"In my life,

Why do I smile

At people who I'd much rather kick in the eye?"

 

They were helpful questions. :-)

 

btw, I love that Muse song also. 

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Death Cab For Cutie - I Will Follow You Into The Dark

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6XZsau7CSk

 

Love of mine,
someday you will die
but I'll be close behind,
I'll follow you into the dark
no blinding light
or tunnels to gates of white
just our hands clasped so tight
waiting for the hint of a spark

 

If heaven and hell decide
that they both are satisfied
illuminate the "no's",
on their vacancy signs
if there's no one beside you,
when your soul embarks
then I'll follow you into the dark

 

And Catholic school
as vicious as Roman rule
I got my knuckles bruised
by a lady in black
and I held my tongue
as she told me,
"son, fear is the heart of love." 
so I never went back

 

You and me have seen
everything to see
from Bangkok to Calgary
and the soles of your shoes

are all worn down,
the time for sleep is now          
but it's nothing to cry about
'cause we'll hold each other soon,
in the blackest of rooms

 

If heaven and hell decide
that they both are satisfied
illuminate the "no's",
on their vacancy signs
if there's no one beside you,
when your soul embarks
then I'll follow you into the dark

 

then I'll follow you into the dark

 

 

 
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This one is dedicated to all of the kids out there.... They Might be Giants put out a good one.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty33v7UYYbw

 

Science is real

From the Big Bang to DNA

Science is real From evolution to the Milky Way

I like the stories About angels, unicorns and elves

Now I like those stories

As much as anybody else

But when I'm seeking knowledge

Either simple or abstract

The facts are with science

The facts are with science

Science is real Science is real

Science is real Science is real

 

From anatomy to geology

Science is real

From astrophysics to biology

A scientific theory Isn't just a hunch or guess

It's more like a question

That's been put through a lot of tests

And when a theory emerges

Consistent with the facts

The proof is with science

The truth is with science

Science is real

Science is real 

You took the words right out of my mouth.  I bought this for my kids about six months ago.  They love it - the whole album!  Good stuff TMBG.

 
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Mmmm... excellent recommendations. Thank you, friends.

 

PS - just saw Shutter Island - amazing mind trip, and I fully endorse it and recommend it to anyone who enjoys their brains being spun around in their skulls.

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"We are a Gentle, Angry People". The words are written by Holly Near and are as follows:

We are a gentle, angry people

We are a gentle angry people, X 2
and we are singing, singing for our lives

We are a justice seeking people, X 2
and we are singing, singing for our lives

We are young and old together, X 2
and we are singing, singing for our lives

We are a land of many colors, X 2
and we are singing, singing for our lives

We are gay and straight together X 2
And we are singing, singing for our lives

We are a gentle, loving people X 2
And we are singing, singing for our lives

 

"Blue Boat Home" which goes to the tune of the LDS hymn "In Humility, Our Savior".

 

You can hear a sample here. I copied the words below:

 

"Though below me, I feel no motion
Standing on these mountains and plains
Far away from the rolling ocean
Still my dry land heart can say
I've been sailing all my life now
Never harbor or port have I known
The wide universe is the ocean I travel
And the earth is my blue boat home


Sun, my sail, and moon my rudder
As I ply the starry sea
Leaning over the edge in wonder
Casting questions into the deep
Drifting here with my ship's companions
All we kindred pilgrim souls
Making our way by the lights of the heavens
In our beautiful blue boat home


I give thanks to the waves upholding me
Hail the great winds urging me on
Greet the infinite sea before me
Sing the sky my sailor's song
I was born upon the fathoms
Never harbor or port have I known
The wide universe is the ocean I travel
And the earth is my blue boat home
"

 

"God Rest Ye, Unitarians"
Lyrics by the Rev. Christopher Gist Raible of the First Unitarian Church of Worcester

God rest ye, Unitarians, let nothing you dismay;
Remember there's no evidence there was a Christmas Day;
When Christ was born is just not known, no matter what they say,
O, Tidings of reason and fact, reason and fact,
Glad tidings of reason and fact.

There was no star of Bethlehem, there was no angels' song;
There could have been no wise men for the trip would take too long.
The stories in the Bible are historically wrong,
O, Tidings of reason and fact, reason and fact,
Glad tidings of reason and fact!

Our current Christmas customs come from Persia and from Greece,
From solstice celebrations of the ancient Middle East.
We know our so-called holiday is just a pagan feast,
O, Tidings of reason and fact, reason and fact,
Glad tidings of reason and fact.

 

My wife and I would like to have some hymns to sing during family nights that convey our new values and beliefs. Singing of course creates unity, accelerates the learning process, and encourages emotional elevation. The problem is we don’t know many of the Humanist or UU hymns, yet. But, we do know an awful lot of LDS adult and children’s hymns. Unfortunately, the messages in many of those hymns are no longer consistent with our beliefs. So, we decided to do two things. First, go through the LDS hymnbooks and identify hymns that we know and can still use unchanged, such as #92 “For the Beauty of the Earth,” although we did replace the words “Lord of all” with “Mother Earth.” Second, modify existing hymns to teach principles we agree with.

 

Below are two examples that are slightly modified:

 



“Families Extend Through All Generations”
To the music of “Families Can Be Together Forever”

1. I have a family here on earth. They are so good to me.
I want to share my life with them through all mortality.

Chorus:
Fam’lies extend through all generations through parents and children.
I often like to think of those who went before,
And imagine those who’ll follow me.
Imagine those who’ll follow me.

2. While I am in my early years, I’ll prepare most carefully,
So I can lead my family to live in harmony.

“Love One Another” – modified

As I have loved you, Love one another.
Practice compassion. Love one another.
Be understanding. Show empathic list’ning.
Strive to have love One to another.

 

 

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Two of my favorite albums from high school were PiL's First Issue and XTC's Skylarking. My parents would've killed me had they found out what I was listening to on my yellow Sony Walkman.

 

PiL's Religion I & II

 

Stained glass windows keep the cold outside
While the hypocrites hide inside
With the lies of statues in their minds
Where the Christian religion made them blind
Where they hide
And prey to the God of a bitch spelled backwards is dog
Not for one race, one creed, one world
But for money
Effective
Absurd

Do you pray to the Holy Ghost when you suck your host
Do you read who’s dead in the Irish Post
Do you give away the cash you can’t afford
On bended knees and pray to lord

Fat pig priest
Sanctimonious smiles
He takes the money
You take the lies
This is religion and Jesus Christ
This is religion cheaply priced
This is bibles full of libel
This is sin in eternal hymn
This is what they’ve done
This is your religion
The apostles were eleven
Now there’s a sod in Heaven

This is religion
There’s a liar on the altar
The sermon never falter
This is religion
Your religion 

 

XTC - Dear God

 

Dear God,
Hope you got the letter,
And I pray you can make it better down here.
I don't mean a big reduction in the price of beer,
But all the people that you made in your image,
See them starving on their feet,
'Cause they don't get enough to eat
From God,
I can't believe in you.
Dear God,
sorry to disturb you,
but I feel that I should be heard loud and clear.
We all need a big reduction in amount of tears,
And all the people that you made in your image,
See them fighting in the street,
'Cause they can't make opinions meet,
About God,
I can't believe in you.
Did you make disease, and the diamond blue?
Did you make mankind after we made you?
And the devil too!
Dear God,
Don't know if you noticed,
But your name is on a lot of quotes in this book.
Us crazy humans wrote it, you should take a look,
And all the people that you made in your image,
Still believing that junk is true.
Well I know it ain't and so do you,
Dear God,
I can't believe in,
I don't believe in,
I won't believe in heaven and hell.
No saints, no sinners,
No Devil as well.
No pearly gates, no thorny crown.
You're always letting us humans down.
The wars you bring, the babes you drown.
Those lost at sea and never found,
And it's the same the whole world 'round.
The hurt I see helps to compound,
that the Father, Son and Holy Ghost,
Is just somebody's unholy hoax,
And if you're up there you'll perceive,
That my heart's here upon my sleeve.
If there's one thing I don't believe in...
It's you,
Dear God

 

 

 

 
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Andy Prieboy- Tommorrow Wendy

 

It is complete now the two ends of time are neatly tied.
A one-way street, she's walking to the end of the line.
And there she meets the faces she keeps in her heart and mind.

They say 'good bye' Tomorrow, Wendy, you're going to die.
They say 'good bye' Tomorrow, Wendy, you're going to die.

Underneath the chilly gray November sky
We can make believe that Kennedy is still alive and
We're shooting for the moon and smiling Jackie's driving by and

They say 'good try'
Tomorrow Wendy's going to die.
Tomorrow Wendy's going to die.

I told the priest, don't count on any second coming.
God got his ass kicked the first time he came down here slumming.
He had the balls to come, the gall to die and then forgive us.
No, I don't wonder why, I wonder what he thought it would get us.
Hey, hey, good bye.
Tomorrow Wendy's going to die.

Hey, hey, good bye.
Tomorrow Wendy's going to die.
Tomorrow Wendy's going to die.

Hey, hey, good bye.
Tomorrow Wendy's going to die.
Tomorrow Wendy's going to die.

Only God says jump,
So I set the time
'Cause if he ever saw her
It was through these eyes of mine!
And if he ever suffered it was me who did his crying.

Hey hey, good bye.
Tomorrow Wendy's going to die
(Tomorrow Wendy's going to die)
Tomorrow Wendy's going to die
(Tomorrow Wendy's going to die)
Tomorrow Wendy'd going to die

Hey, hey, good bye
Tomorrow Wendy's going to die

Hey, hey, good bye
Tomorrow Wendy's going to die
Tomorrow Wendy's going to die
Tomorrow Wendys going to die

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More awesome recommendations - Ozlamanite, that's actually one of my favorite songs of all time, though I prefer the Concrete Blonde version. Their whole Bloodletting album was excellent - a big reminder to me that Twilight can suck it.
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I have an entire playlist...in my head.

 

Here's one that I haven't seen mentioned, yet:

 

http://www.last.fm/music/Godsmack/_/I+Stand+Alone

 

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I love these threads. I've posted many songs before that speak to me. 

 

"I Want to Break Free" by Queen is still probably my favorite. 

 
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Here's a good one:

 

God by John Lennon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09e1y82IcJA 

 

God is a concept by which we can measure our pain
I'll say it again

God is a concept by which we can measure our pain

 

I don't believe in magic

I don't believe in I-ching

I don't believe in bible

I don't believe in tarot

I don't believe in Hitler

I don't believe in Jesus

I don't believe in Kennedy
I don't believe in Buddha
I don't believe in mantra

I don't believe in Gita

I don't believe in yoga
I don't believe in kings

I don't believe in Elvis

I don't believe in Zimmerman

I don't believe in Beatles,

 

I just believe in me

Yoko and me
And that's reality

 

The dream is over. What can I say?
The dream is over, yesterday

I was dreamweaver, but now I'm reborn

I was the walrus, but now I'm John

And so dear friends You just have to carry on

 

The dream is over

 
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One of my old favorites that I made off-limits to myself during my time as a TBM is Bikini Kill. If you feel like hating on the patriarchy, this band's for you!

 

Here's an example:

 

Statement of Vindication

 

Mirror Mirror on the wall
Whose the fairest of them all?
I don't I don't really care y'know
I don't I don't really care
I don't I don't really care
Like it's not that important at all

You made the rules
You wrote the script out
Don't blame me when you fuckin' lose

Don't put the blame on me

You try to make me crazy
You try to make me scared
You try to make me crazy
I think yr a fuckin' drag

You are yr own worst enemy

 

If you are one of those people who thinks that all women should sing like angels, then you won't like this. And if you don't like cursing you won't like it. 

 

The songs are short, so here's another:

 

Bloody Ice Cream

 

The Sylvia Plath story is told to girls who write
They want us to think that to be a girl poet means you have to die
Who is it that told me all the girls who write must suicide?

I've another good one for you,
We are turning cursive letters into knives.

 

The singer in the band, Kathleen Hannah, more recently was involved in another band, Le Tigre, which has more of an electro-dance-punk feel to it, but it also contains feminist fueled messages.

 

 

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