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*I propose making this thread either a sticky or available from a drop-down menu*

 

[Moderator insertion: I made this thread sticky for now. Maybe we'll do something more permanent later because we're getting a lot of sticky threads. -- Jeff Ricks]


"For there are many yet on the earth among [Mormonism]...who are only kept from the truth because they know not where to find it"
-D&C 123:12 (adapted from the original)

The following is a list of sites that are useful in helping the reader learn more about all things Mormon, everything from the Kinderhook plates to the Hoffman cover-up to the most recent happenings in the Church:

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Scholarly Mormon Resources - Find original sources and scholarly articles fast about Mormonism. Includes information from both apologetic and critical websites.

Informative Websites (not an exhaustive list by any means)

Critical

Utah Lighthouse Ministries Topical Guide

LDS-Mormon Articles

Zarahemla City Limits

Deconstructor's Rethinking Mormonism

20 Truths About Mormonism

Recovery From Mormonism Articles

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Why Mormons


Real Mormon History

Mormon Classics Library

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Dr. Shades Mormon Information

Joseph Lied

 

Grape Nephi's Problems with LDS Teachings

 

Richard Packham's Site


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FAIR LDS Topical Guide

Maxwell Institute

Shields

Jeff Lindsey's site

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Blog Aggregators and Select Blogs

Outer Lightness - for DAMU (Disaffected Mormon Underground) blogs

Mormon Archipelago - for TBM blogs

Equality Time

 

Bob McCue's Website


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Mormon Curtain

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Mormon discussions

Mormon Think Tank

Ex-Mormon forums

Mormon Apologetic and Discussion Board

Recovery From Mormonism board

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Feedback? Useful?
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Yes, like it. And I think you got all the biggies. I propose a third category after Critical and Apologetic.

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I am bringing up this thread as it has a lot of good resources for our newest members and lurkers.

I didn't see it in the Scrapbook. I think it would be a good addition to the library. Is it located anyplace besides just a thread? 

Thank you Hueffenhardt for all your effort in gathering this information!

 
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Crazy Cat Lady:

I am bringing up this thread as it has a lot of good resources for our newest members and lurkers.

I didn't see it in the Scrapbook. I think it would be a good addition to the library. Is it located anyplace besides just a thread? 

Thank you Hueffenhardt for all your effort in gathering this information!



Thanks for bringing it up CCL. I'll put my two cents in and second the notion.
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I think this should have a place in our library.  Perhaps Jeff could take a look and put it out for comment.  Bear
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I think it is time to bump this thread.
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Hueffenhardt, you are a virtual goldmine of information.  Thank you for bumping these posts for us.  

 

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Thanks, Huff. Great list.  There are so many more resources available now than even just two years ago. I think lists like this one are very helpful to those who are first starting out in their deeper investigation of all things Mormon.  The links here (and the links found on all the sites listed here) will provide endless hours of information.  It really is amazing to have all this work that took many people literally years to assemble, right here at our fingertips. 
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Yes, yes, I would like to see this as a sticky or somewhere for easy access, not just for me but new members or lurkers, so much helpful info.
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Fantastic resources Hueffenhardt.

 

My particular interest was always in how Mormons think and how they think about what they think and describe how they think, but on a more meaty level than you'd get from your average Joe Ward Member.

 

I'm sure you know these blogs (from the Archipelago) but I thought that if anyone doesn't and is interested in intelligent Mormon blogs where they really tuck into the nitty gritty then I'd add them here. So if that's anyone's particular interest as well, these TBM blogs are worth a glance.

 

Times and Seasons

 

Mormon Metaphysics

 

New Cool Thang

 

Times and Seasons is especially worth a glance, if not least because it will leave you gob-smacked at the smugness and sophistry, yet these are highly intelligent and articulate folk.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Times and Seasons is especially worth a glance, if not least because it will leave you gob-smacked at the smugness and sophistry, yet these are highly intelligent and articulate folk.

 

 

Those Times and Seasons folks drive me crazy. Honestly, after participating on that forum for a few months I had to acknowledge that the religion really wasn't working out for me personally. They talk like intellectuals but, frankly, their brand of intellectualism is in finding how many different ways they can arrive at the same conclusions.

 
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Times and Seasons is especially worth a glance, if not least because it will leave you gob-smacked at the smugness and sophistry, yet these are highly intelligent and articulate folk.

 

 

Those Times and Seasons folks drive me crazy. Honestly, after participating on that forum for a few months I had to acknowledge that the religion really wasn't working out for me personally. They talk like intellectuals but, frankly, their brand of intellectualism is in finding how many different ways they can arrive at the same conclusions.

 

Yep, you sum it up precisely. There's a charade of enquiry, but there's not a genuine enquiry happening, not on any important levels. The vast effort put into the smoke and mirrors is, however, staggering.

 

I'd give you a more detailed version of my opinion of the T&S gang, but I don't want Postmormon.org to get sued for defamation and slander.

 

 

 

 

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I'd give you a more detailed version of my opinion of the T&S gang, but I don't want Postmormon.org to get sued for defamation and slander.

 

Feel free to PM me.

 
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I suggest adding Images of the Restoration.  I don't know exactly how to classify it (look at the "About" page in the header menu), but it approaches Mormon history from a visual art perspective.

 

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That is great, Juggler! Thanks for pointing it out to me.
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lots of good sites. adding a timeline if J. Smiths polygamy

  http://www.i4m.com/think/polygamy/polygamy-timeline.htm

 

 
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oooo. Can it be a sticky? I remember this thread, and it was very, very helpful to me.
 
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This is a wonderful list for anyone questioning the LDS church and Joe Smith! Thanks for putting it on one topic.

 

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Huff,

 

Is Bob Mc Cue's site there?

 

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Huff,

 

Is Bob Mc Cue's site there?

 

Daryl 

 

 It wasn't, but it is now.

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Bump for newbies

 

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Can we please "float" this?

 

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I've been on this site for a while now and never saw this thread! It's a must see for everyone!! Thanks for posting all this useful info in one place.
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Yeah, what are the chances of getting this (or something like it) attached to the top of the forum, so more people will have access to valuable links? Anyone with me?
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"Zarahemla City Limits"....none of their inner links work...all the essays are gone.
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Hueffenhardt:

*I propose making this thread either a sticky or available from a drop-down menu*

"For there are many yet on the earth among [Mormonism]...who are only kept from the truth because they know not where to find it"
-D&C 123:12 (adapted from the original)

The following is a list of sites that are useful in helping the reader learn more about all things Mormon, everything from the Kinderhook plates to the Hoffman cover-up to the most recent happenings in the Church:

 

Thank you for this wealth of information, Hueffenhardt.

 

I wish that we could also add sources from never-mo's; scientists etc... to this list.

 

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Hueffenhardt:

*I propose making this thread either a sticky or available from a drop-down menu*

"For there are many yet on the earth among [Mormonism]...who are only kept from the truth because they know not where to find it"
-D&C 123:12 (adapted from the original)

The following is a list of sites that are useful in helping the reader learn more about all things Mormon, everything from the Kinderhook plates to the Hoffman cover-up to the most recent happenings in the Church:

 

Thank you for this wealth of information, Hueffenhardt.

 

I wish that we could also add sources from never-mo's; scientists etc... to this list.

 

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 Here is a small start from a Never-Mo source:

"The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins.

 

Great book, I am reading it now! Beware; you may become an athiest, or at least lean that way after reading...

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 Here is a small start from a Never-Mo source:

"The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins.

 

Great book, I am reading it now! Beware; you may become an athiest, or at least lean that way after reading...

 

YES! This book is incredible, I'm listening to it right now. Richard Dawkins is a genius.

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 Here is a small start from a Never-Mo source:

"The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins.

 

Great book, I am reading it now! Beware; you may become an athiest, or at least lean that way after reading...

 

YES! This book is incredible, I'm listening to it right now. Richard Dawkins is a genius.

 

 Yes, it is! And yes, he is! And, btw, I love your avatar. 1984 is my favorite book, and got me started on my jounrey to truth. 

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We are lucky to have what we do have on the Zarahemla City Limits website, as it was taken down for a while. Long story, but they are in the process of restoring the site to its former glory.

 

Just so you guys know I have been working on a special project for Post-Mo for almost a year now that will be a great aid to researching all things about Mormonism (for, against, and original sources). Hectic life took me away from working on the project for a while, but I have renewed my efforts and should have at least the groundwork of it set up and available after the holidays. 

 

Edit: Two years ago, right after my wife and I left the church and I became atheist and she agnostic, we were able to attend a presentation by Richard Dawkins on "The God Delusion" at my university. It was great for us, newly non-theists as we were, to attend a lecture with a couple thousand of like minded individuals. It was kind of like a revival for atheists.

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Hueffenhardt:

*I propose making this thread either a sticky or available from a drop-down menu*

"For there are many yet on the earth among [Mormonism]...who are only kept from the truth because they know not where to find it"
-D&C 123:12 (adapted from the original)

The following is a list of sites that are useful in helping the reader learn more about all things Mormon, everything from the Kinderhook plates to the Hoffman cover-up to the most recent happenings in the Church:

 

Thank you for this wealth of information, Hueffenhardt.

 

I wish that we could also add sources from never-mo's; scientists etc... to this list.

 

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 Here is a small start from a Never-Mo source:

"The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins.

 

Great book, I am reading it now! Beware; you may become an athiest, or at least lean that way after reading...

 

Already leaning.....Even though I promised myself I would not become "one of those people who leave Mormonism and then leave God".

 

Thanks for the suggestion :)

 

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 Here is a small start from a Never-Mo source:

"The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins.

 

Great book, I am reading it now! Beware; you may become an athiest, or at least lean that way after reading...

 

YES! This book is incredible, I'm listening to it right now. Richard Dawkins is a genius.

 

 Yes, it is! And yes, he is! And, btw, I love your avatar. 1984 is my favorite book, and got me started on my jounrey to truth. 

 

Wow, are we twins or something? 1984 started me out of the church as well. Seems like you are just reading my posts and copycating me. Either that or we are twins separated at birth. 

 

EDIT- I just got all detective like and checked your profile. You were born in the same year I was. I feel like I should take you out, highlander-style. 

 

There can be only one...

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A few of our new visitors might be interested in learning some more about the real history of Mormonism.
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When I first announced to my wife that I no longer believed, she wanted to know why.  As in everyone's case, it is a variety of things.  However, I needed something that would hit home with her.  I knew from everything that I had read that there were similarities between the Mormon temple ceremony and Masonry.  I told Claire that Joseph had borrowed from them, and so I did a google search for "masonry handshakes."  The very first site that it brought up illuminated us - I had no idea how much the similarities were.

 

http://www.ephesians5-11.org/handshakes.htm

 

This is not an antimormon site.  Just one about Masonry.   It was easy for us to draw conclusions.

 

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A really great book is "In Sacred Loneliness" by Todd Compton. Well researched histories of 33 wives of Joseph Smith.

 

 

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Glad to see this as a "sticky" topic now. Great resources here!
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Carter:

When I first announced to my wife that I no longer believed, she wanted to know why.  As in everyone's case, it is a variety of things.  However, I needed something that would hit home with her.  I knew from everything that I had read that there were similarities between the Mormon temple ceremony and Masonry.  I told Claire that Joseph had borrowed from them, and so I did a google search for "masonry handshakes."  The very first site that it brought up illuminated us - I had no idea how much the similarities were.

 

http://www.ephesians5-11.org/handshakes.htm

 

This is not an antimormon site.  Just one about Masonry.   It was easy for us to draw conclusions.

 

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Great pics. I just saw this today as I was doing research on the Masons. I also saw another pic of the execution of the death penalty which the church took out some years ago.

 

About that. How can the apologists say that JS  got this corrupted form of the temple ceremony from the Masons and  restored it (through revelation)to the *original* ceremony and THEN, years later; church takes out parts of that  "original" ceremony that JS restored(including symbolic throat slashing and disembowelment signs, (etc..etc... ) and STILL says it was restored by revelation.

 

God needs to be a better communicator--especially since those temple workers are so adamant you get everything perfect when you're doing it.

 

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This is one of the most absolutely awesome links I've ever found on the Book of Abraham (from a Sunstone Mormon.)

 

Has anyone ever posted this or read it?  

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