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This was very revealing:


"The Arabic cognate of one of the Hebrew terms for 'chariot' refers not to any kind of wheeled vehicle, but can refer to a ship or a boat. In most instances, the word refers to a device that can move a person or object, but not necessarily a wheeled device. The Welsh cognate to the English 'chariot,' signifies, among other things, a 'dray'--which Webster's defines as 'any of several wheelless land vehicles used for haulage,' and for which it gives as a synonym nothing less than 'travois'; 'dray' is obviously cognate with the verb 'to drag'--or a 'sledge' (which term is, itself, related to words like 'sleigh' and 'sled'--which also plainly denote wheelless vehicles)."

Next, redefine a "horse" as a "deer," thus removing the need for, well, horses:

" . . . [I]f Nephite chariots were not wheeled . . ., why are chariots mentioned in conjunction with Nephite 'horses'? First, Nephite chariots (wheeled or not) may have been pulled by deer or tapirs (which may have been included in the Nephite term 'horse'). Several ancient Eastern and Near Eastern pieces of art and petroglyphs depict chariots drawn by deer. Early Hindus had chariots pulled by deer. We find deer-pulling chariots in Asian art. The Greek goddess Artemis supposedly rode a chariot pulled by deer."

(Michael R. Ash, "Horses in the Book of Mormon," paper based on talk and PowerPoint presentation given by Ash to Book of Mormon Lands Conference, 20 October 2007, at: http://www.fairlds.org/Book_of_Mormon/AshHorse/)

In other words (so to speak), take the wheels off the "chariots" in order to turn them into "sleds," then change a "horse" into a "deer" and--behold!--you have the true order of battle as it gloriously unfolded in the Book of Mormon: Nephites sledding around the theater of combat operations being pulled by deer.

 

I do believe the apologists are reaching...just a bit. Looks a bit like this me thinks:

 

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They try so hard....it's hysterical.

 

Next up on Mormon doctrine:  Santa is one of the three Nephites. 

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How can you go into battle looking so cheery?  You know that Hill Cumorah is the best sledding place around.  Wheeee!
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What would be cool is one of the cheesy paintings of a Nephite warrior going into battle on a sled pulled by a large tapir. If someone visualized it, Ash would back down.
 
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NevermO:
What would be cool is one of the cheesy paintings of a Nephite warrior going into battle on a sled pulled by a large tapir. If someone visualized it, Ash would back down.

 

Any artists out there?

 
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Oh what fun it is to ride in a 1-tapir open-travois.....(just doesn't quite have a ring to it yet....)
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NevermO:
What would be cool is one of the cheesy paintings of a Nephite warrior going into battle on a sled pulled by a large tapir. If someone visualized it, Ash would back down.

 

I doubt that.  He woud probably use it to prove his point, regardless of how stupid it looked.  I try to wrap my head around the stuff that comes out of his mouth when he triey to justify church related issues and it can't be done.  He is out there in la-la land. 

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NevermO:
What would be cool is one of the cheesy paintings of a Nephite warrior going into battle on a sled pulled by a large tapir. If someone visualized it, Ash would back down.

 

Any artists out there?

 

 see here:

 

http://www.zazzle.com/ride_em_tapir_tshirt-235781875614433226

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