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I would like to hear your thoughts on the NatGeo channel's new show Doomsday Preppers. I stumbled across it and found myself shaking my head at how out of touch with reality some of those people seem to be. Some of the people are also rather frightening. 

 

I noticed that a lot of the food storage the people had came from the mormon church, and the first episode I saw had a guy from Sandy, UT who had built and stocked an underground fallout shelter for his family at an undisclosed location because he is convinced that we are in imminent danger of nuclear attack.

 

Not all of the "preppers" are LDS, but they certainly sound a lot like them.

 

While I do think it is important to have an emergency plan and to be reasonably prepared for an emergency, these folks seem to have left reason behind a long time ago. I really think some of them are bordering on being mentally ill. They don't seem to be able to think rationally about the actual likelyhood of the events they are obsessively preparing for. And the reasons they give for their motivations to 'prep' are wide and vary from fairly reasonable natural disasters to 'the government is out to get us' paranoia.

 

Has anyone else seen this? What do you think? I'm expecting a lively thread here with lots of witty posts from you lovely people, so have at it. 

 

 

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I've seen parts of a few episodes, and the people are psychotic to say the least. On one of the episodes, the "preppers" were shooting at their barricaded house with high powered rifles to see how it would hold up in the event of an attack from the outside.
 
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Oh great. I'm watching it right now and this woman in SLC is going on about how the government is going to take all of our civil rights and start withholding water for all but the elite few. Wow.
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I believe that love for our fellow-men is infinitely nobler, better, and more necessary than love for God.
I believe that men, women and children need our best thoughts, our tenderest consideration, and our earnest sympathy.
I believe that God can get on just as well without any of these as with them.
If he wants anything he can get it without our assistance. It is people with limitations, not gods without limitations, who need and should have our aid…
If a life that embraces this line of action does not fit a man for heaven, and if faith in vicarious atonement will, then such a heaven is not worth going to, and its god would be unworthy to make a good man’s acquaintance.” Helen H Gardener, Men, Women, and Gods, 1885

 
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Maybe the "holy ghost" will guide her to a water source.
 
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Even her friends seemed to think she was a little off her rocker, but damn if that show doesn't make me want to out of state again!
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If he wants anything he can get it without our assistance. It is people with limitations, not gods without limitations, who need and should have our aid…
If a life that embraces this line of action does not fit a man for heaven, and if faith in vicarious atonement will, then such a heaven is not worth going to, and its god would be unworthy to make a good man’s acquaintance.” Helen H Gardener, Men, Women, and Gods, 1885

 
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In the event of a real doomsday event--comet strike, Yellowstone blowup, all-out nuclear war--the likelihood that you have some weevily wheat in your basement or that your house can withstand a few bullets will likely make little difference in the end.

 

When disease strikes, as the Black Plague did in Europe, it doesn't distinguish between the elite and commoners, government officials or plain citizens, the devout or secularists. If you are in the way of a tsunami you are likely to be drowned, regardless of how much foodstuffs you have squirreled away or how deep your fallout shelter is.

 

The religious have anticipated the end times as long as history records.  It gives them something to look forward to, as this life isn't all that important to them.  If you give all your money to priests and bridle your natural urges, an afterlife of prosperity and lots of sex can look pretty inviting.  Most survivalists probably look forward to catastrophe.  It will give them a chance to show themselves they are right.  I think they enjoy the prospect of seeing all their complacent neighbors die horrible deaths.

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It is amazing how much insanity seems to be fueled by religious zeal.
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If he wants anything he can get it without our assistance. It is people with limitations, not gods without limitations, who need and should have our aid…
If a life that embraces this line of action does not fit a man for heaven, and if faith in vicarious atonement will, then such a heaven is not worth going to, and its god would be unworthy to make a good man’s acquaintance.” Helen H Gardener, Men, Women, and Gods, 1885

 
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Jammerwoch:

In the event of a real doomsday event--comet strike, Yellowstone blowup, all-out nuclear war--the likelihood that you have some weevily wheat in your basement or that your house can withstand a few bullets will likely make little difference in the end.

 

When disease strikes, as the Black Plague did in Europe, it doesn't distinguish between the elite and commoners, government officials or plain citizens, the devout or secularists. If you are in the way of a tsunami you are likely to be drowned, regardless of how much foodstuffs you have squirreled away or how deep your fallout shelter is.

 

The religious have anticipated the end times as long as history records.  It gives them something to look forward to, as this life isn't all that important to them.  If you give all your money to priests and bridle your natural urges, an afterlife of prosperity and lots of sex can look pretty inviting.  Most survivalists probably look forward to catastrophe.  It will give them a chance to show themselves they are right.  I think they enjoy the prospect of seeing all their complacent neighbors die horrible deaths.

 

 My TBM dad used to refer to this as "the blitz".

 
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"Survivalists" by any other name....chicken-little running about...don't forget your dowsing stick. 

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Last Wednesday in family history library I sat and listened to two educated LDS TBM's get very vocal about Obama (that black man) having a secret agenda to destroy America. That he was born in Africa, that he was a "Muslim," and that the wise are moving back to Utah and Idaho. I waited till there was a little break in their conversation and mentioned quietly, "Isn't it amazing that he wants to destroy the only life and country his two little daughters have ever known, and at such tender ages?" If dirty looks could kill...
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apostate (FKA) strangite:
Last Wednesday in family history library I sat and listened to two educated LDS TBM's get very vocal about Obama (that black man) having a secret agenda to destroy America. That he was born in Africa, that he was a "Muslim," and that the wise are moving back to Utah and Idaho. I waited till there was a little break in their conversation and mentioned quietly, "Isn't it amazing that he wants to destroy the only life and country his two little daughters have ever known, and at such tender ages?" If dirty looks could kill...

 

 LOL! Did you really say that? Oh that is awesome. I would have loved to have seen that. 

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I believe that God can get on just as well without any of these as with them.
If he wants anything he can get it without our assistance. It is people with limitations, not gods without limitations, who need and should have our aid…
If a life that embraces this line of action does not fit a man for heaven, and if faith in vicarious atonement will, then such a heaven is not worth going to, and its god would be unworthy to make a good man’s acquaintance.” Helen H Gardener, Men, Women, and Gods, 1885

 
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I've seen parts of a few episodes, and the people are psychotic to say the least. On one of the episodes, the "preppers" were shooting at their barricaded house with high powered rifles to see how it would hold up in the event of an attack from the outside.

 

It is sooooo irrational to think that a barracaded house can withstand a military offensive. If the "government" wants what's in their house (another laughable notion) getting in would be easy.

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Maybe the "holy ghost" will guide her to a water source.

...using a magic peep stone that she found by reading the Book of Mormon.  And she found the stone in her back yard in a garden that the Church commanded all members should have.  Had she not planted that garden and read the Book of Mormon she wouldn't have found the peep stone.  Any day now it'll lead her to the promised water source -- just as soon as she has enough faith.

 

I've heard stories from some Mormons that aren't much crazier than that. 

 

 

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I've watched some of the show online, but I don't have the TV channel. I have found it interesting, but I am a sort-of prepper. I am not prepping because of a second coming, government take-over, or any other conspiracy theory. I just believe its better safe than sorry to have an emergency kit, a plan, and some extra food and water. Living in a place that is in earthquake prone, winter storms, etc. I don't think that is crazy at all, to me, it's smart. Also, I don't store hoards of food that I will never eat, I buy in bulk the foods I eat often and rotate them.
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Jeff Ricks:
Sterling Hill:
Maybe the "holy ghost" will guide her to a water source.

...using a magic peep stone that she found by reading the Book of Mormon.  And she found the stone in her back yard in a garden that the Church commanded all members should have.  Had she not planted that garden and read the Book of Mormon she wouldn't have found the peep stone.  Any day now it'll lead her to the promised water source -- just as soon as she has enough faith.

 

I've heard stories from some Mormons that aren't much crazier than that. 

 

 

 

 You and me both. The TBM farmer I used to work for in high school, his mother claimed to be a "water witch".

 
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Jeff Ricks:
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I've seen parts of a few episodes, and the people are psychotic to say the least. On one of the episodes, the "preppers" were shooting at their barricaded house with high powered rifles to see how it would hold up in the event of an attack from the outside.

 

It is sooooo irrational to think that a barracaded house can withstand a military offensive. If the "government" wants what's in their house (another laughable notion) getting in would be easy.

 

 This "house" looked like 2 single wide trailers that were fastened together with plywood and duck tape.

 
       
 


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