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Goes to show you how the Mormon church is getting crushed by the internet.
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This is really cool. Does it mean they are finally starting to care about the views of the lowly members?
 
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I'm having a hard time being excited about this.  I mean, it's great that the church is finally catching up to the 19th Century and allowing women to pray in all meetings.

 

However, I can't help but picture the TBMs sitting at home on Saturday, April 5th, with their scriptures and their conference bingo and their notepad, ready to partake of the good word pouring forth from the modern-day prophets, seers, and revelators. Then lo and behold a woman gets up to offer a prayer! Isn't it marvelous? Isn't it wonderful?

 

So many of them will only see it through their Mormon blinders.  It'll be an indication of the work of the Lord moving yet another step forward.  They won't give any thought of why this step is only being taken now, as opposed to a hundred years ago.

 

They'll hear that woman's voice and there will be a stirring in their bosom.  And that, obviously, will be the Spirit testifying of the truthfulness of the whole thing. Such a confirmation will only fuel the fire that keeps these people stuck in the church.

 

There won't be any critical thinking about WHY this change has taken place.

 

I indicated to my wife yesterday that I heard through the grapevine that women would actually be allowed to give prayers this general conference. Her reaction: "Oh, they've never given prayers before? I hadn't noticed."

 

So there will be the feminists who see this as a huge victory for equality, the women who see this as continuing revelation and a tender mercy from the Lord, and the women who don't even notice.

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Elder Wand:

I'm having a hard time being excited about this.  I mean, it's great that the church is finally catching up to the 19th Century and allowing women to pray in all meetings.

 

However, I can't help but picture the TBMs sitting at home on Saturday, April 5th, with their scriptures and their conference bingo and their notepad, ready to partake of the good word pouring forth from the modern-day prophets, seers, and revelators. Then lo and behold a woman gets up to offer a prayer! Isn't it marvelous? Isn't it wonderful?

 

So many of them will only see it through their Mormon blinders.  It'll be an indication of the work of the Lord moving yet another step forward.  They won't give any thought of why this step is only being taken now, as opposed to a hundred years ago.

 

They'll hear that woman's voice and there will be a stirring in their bosom.  And that, obviously, will be the Spirit testifying of the truthfulness of the whole thing. Such a confirmation will only fuel the fire that keeps these people stuck in the church.

 

There won't be any critical thinking about WHY this change has taken place.

 

I indicated to my wife yesterday that I heard through the grapevine that women would actually be allowed to give prayers this general conference. Her reaction: "Oh, they've never given prayers before? I hadn't noticed."

 

So there will be the feminists who see this as a huge victory for equality, the women who see this as continuing revelation and a tender mercy from the Lord, and the women who don't even notice.

 

 so true - there is such a vacuum in the new revelation department that  it takes so little to get the mormons all stirred up - last conference announcing 18 year olds can serve as corporate salesmen and now this - that women can make an utterance in the holy borefest. they'd better be careful - it is going to become expected that they 'announce' some revelation every conference in order to assure the flock that god is not dead.

 
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If this is actually the one true church, then God is a misogynist who caved to peer pressure.

 

If this is actually just a church run by regular guys, then the guys are misogynists who caved to peer pressure. 

 

Either way, it is a joke.   

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Lloyd Dobler:

If this is actually the one true church, then God is a misogynist who caved to peer pressure.

 

If this is actually just a church run by regular guys, then the guys are misogynists who caved to peer pressure. 

 

Either way, it is a joke.   

 

You forgot option 3: if this is actually the one true church except God was just too busy trying to please his Celestial harem to be bothered to point out to his Earthly mouthpiece that their 200-year-old policy of not allowing women to pray in GC was sexist and completely unnecessary and so they could just go ahead and do away with it, saith the Lord of Hosts.

 

See, God loves women, he just hasn't had the time to set the record straight yet. This change has nothing to do with peer pressure! DON'T FORCE YOUR PERSONAL TIMETABLE ON GOD!!


This still stands.

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Elder Wand:
Lloyd Dobler:

If this is actually the one true church, then God is a misogynist who caved to peer pressure.

 

If this is actually just a church run by regular guys, then the guys are misogynists who caved to peer pressure. 

 

Either way, it is a joke.   

 

You forgot option 3: if this is actually the one true church except God was just too busy trying to please his Celestial harem to be bothered to point out to his Earthly mouthpiece that their 200-year-old policy of not allowing women to pray in GC was sexist and completely unnecessary and so they could just go ahead and do away with it, saith the Lord of Hosts.

 

See, God loves women, he just hasn't had the time to set the record straight yet. This change has nothing to do with peer pressure! DON'T FORCE YOUR PERSONAL TIMETABLE ON GOD!!


This still stands.

 

 please forgive me for my ark steadying E. Wand.  I am prideful and slothful and I am not grateful or thankful.

 

I should have just called this a tender mercy and then stopped thinking any more about it and started reading my Book of Mormon.

 

O Wretched man that I am! 

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Swearing Elder:

Yep. Only took 183 years, but it's gonna happen in April.

 

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/56026380-78/women-general-conference-pray.html.csp 

 

Ehhhh....so what.  So they allow women to give a prayer in conference.  As if THAT means anything.  Of course, since I'm an excommunicated apostate female, my opinion may be slightly tainted.  Or spot on. 

 

Are they conducting the meeting?  No

Are they presiding over the meeting?  No

Can do they do anything with authority (hire/fire people from callings)?  No

 

Why?  Because they are female.  Has nothing to do with their "worthiness".

 

Do they still need the penishood for everything related to Mormonism.  Yep

 

No doubt the men are thrilled women will be stuck allowed to give prayers in GC.  Just reduced the chance they'll get stuck asked to give another prayer, with the exception of those arrogant smucks who had it on their bucket list of being asked to pray on TV to promote their own perceived righteousness.

 

The fact this is getting so much press only magnifies the cult's suppression of women as a whole.  We're so progressive in our church, we are now going to allow women to pray  - in public - at the pulpit - on TV - during in our important meetings.  Doesn't leave me with a warm, fuzzy feeling, but again, I'm a heartless ex-Mormon. 

 

The active LDS feminist who is celebrating this as "win" is the same one who still believes her husband is the sole head of her household and needs his approval to spend $15.00 from her own paycheck. 

 

I guess it's a start, but like Swearing Elder said...it only took 183 years.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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In 2008 I was part of a group (Signing for Something) that delivered letters and petitions to the Church Office Building asking the church leadership to change its position on gay marriage. Of course, they didn't. But, at the time, there were many people who told me that "this sort of thing" (delivering letters/petitions to church headquarters) was simply not done. I don't know of other previous similar things done, and the news media that covered the event in October, 2008 seemed to be unaware of any similar thing happening in the past. Since that group (Signing for Something) took letters and petitions to the COB in October 2008, many others have done similar things.

 

The impetus for that group's action came from discussions on the PostMormon.org discussion board, and several people frequenting the board at that time were involved.

 

Although I am not claiming Signing for Something was the trailblazing organization and that no one else would have done this if we hadn't done it, I do want to recognize the efforts made by those folks and acknowledge the role of the Postmormon.org board. So, it isn't at all surprising to me that this may well be yet another "ripple effect" of the efforts of Jeff Ricks for starting PostMormon.org and all the wonderful and tremendous things that have flowed from it.

 

Although I don't want to be in any way subject to a "prophet," were it necessary to have one, Jeff Ricks would be my nominee for the job.

 

P.S. - In an attempt to not violate any rules of confidentiality, I am not listing anyone from PostMormon.org who was directly involved in the Signing for Something project (there were several) because I no longer recall their PostMormon.org screen names, and I don't want to list their actual names here if they are not known by their names on this forum.  If you were part of that group, you have my sincere thank you and deep appreciation for what you helped get started.

 

[Edited for grammatical corrections - Bishop Flat Lander]

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Flat Lander:
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P.S. - In an attempt to not violate any rules of confidentiality, I am not listing anyone from PostMormon.org who was directly involved in the Signing for Something project (there were several) because I no longer recall their PostMormon.org screen names, and I don't want to list their actual names here if they are not known by their names on this forum.  If you were part of that group, you have my sincere thank you and deep appreciation for what you helped get started.

 

[Edited for grammatical corrections - Bishop Flat Lander]

 

It was a link on Pam's House Blend — a gay-supportive political blog run by my friend, Pam Spaulding, in North Carolina — which led me to "Signing for Something" [I entered my own, never-mo, rather lame letter there as well], which led me to... POSTMORMON.ORG!!  It was a post from BYU_Alum that led me to register and start posting [but that's a separate story]!!

 

I recall those days well when we could not BELIEVE that PropH8 passed, but were quite relieved that Obama won.  I've been fortunate enough to form some wonderful online and telephone and Skype connections!  Flat Lander and I still Skype from time to time... I invited TroubledWife up to stay with us when she wanted to volunteer after our devastating tornado in '11; Muskegon and I chat on the phone every couple of weeks; I had a BLAST getting to know folks when I attended the Ex-Mo Conference later that year!  S'funny: I don't recall many PostMo names over "real" names, either!   Can't wait to get back there again [c'mon, PowerBall!]!!!

 

Good times!  More on the way! 

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