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Something about this bugs the crap out of me. Probably because this BYU grad is trying to be edgy. (No offense anyone, but I went to the devil's school. Go Utes!) 

 

http://www.salon.com/2013/11/23/mormon_women_bare_more_than_just_their_testimonies_partner/

 
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"Then there’s this other expectation that I wasn’t aware of until I moved to Utah as an adult. Utah supposedly has the highest rate of plastic surgery in the country. So many women simply plan to have plastic surgery after they have children. I have a very educated, successful friend who said that in her family, that’s just what everyone does: after they have children, they get a boob job. So that’s what she did, and she’s happy with that, and more power to her. But the idea that that’s an expectation, that’s what I have a problem with."

 

Further proof when I was TBM, I was in the group of Mormon have nots. Grew up in Utah all my life and this was NOT the expectation, not the norm. Grew up in the culture of getting by with as little as possible, justify any thing you buy so you don't appear worldly.

 
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Holy shit! I went to the website and recognized one of the women.
 
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"Then there’s this other expectation that I wasn’t aware of until I moved to Utah as an adult. Utah supposedly has the highest rate of plastic surgery in the country. So many women simply plan to have plastic surgery after they have children. I have a very educated, successful friend who said that in her family, that’s just what everyone does: after they have children, they get a boob job. So that’s what she did, and she’s happy with that, and more power to her. But the idea that that’s an expectation, that’s what I have a problem with." Further proof when I was TBM, I was in the group of Mormon have nots. Grew up in Utah all my life and this was NOT the expectation, not the norm. Grew up in the culture of getting by with as little as possible, justify any thing you buy so you don't appear worldly.

 

My family was the same. We had seven kids and no money in a neighborhood of well-off people. I think this may be expectation for SOME, but because we were have-nots, my parents took it to the opposite extreme and drove crappy cars and wore D.I. clothes proudly as a badge of their unworldliness.

 

Also, crazy you know one of them!!

 
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"Then there’s this other expectation that I wasn’t aware of until I moved to Utah as an adult. Utah supposedly has the highest rate of plastic surgery in the country. So many women simply plan to have plastic surgery after they have children. I have a very educated, successful friend who said that in her family, that’s just what everyone does: after they have children, they get a boob job. So that’s what she did, and she’s happy with that, and more power to her. But the idea that that’s an expectation, that’s what I have a problem with." Further proof when I was TBM, I was in the group of Mormon have nots. Grew up in Utah all my life and this was NOT the expectation, not the norm. Grew up in the culture of getting by with as little as possible, justify any thing you buy so you don't appear worldly.

 

My family was the same. We had seven kids and no money in a neighborhood of well-off people. I think this may be expectation for SOME, but because we were have-nots, my parents took it to the opposite extreme and drove crappy cars and wore D.I. clothes proudly as a badge of their unworldliness.

 

Also, crazy you know one of them!!

 

 I lived in a farming community, and that seemed to be the mentality of a lot of people in the ward. Maybe because we weren't that close to church headquarters or BYU, there was less of the a$$ kissing and looking good for the higher ups. Not a white collar area at all.

 
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Tattoos and two earrings are evil but pumping up the boobs is OK?

 

A sick culture.

 

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The photographer states "There was a difference between nudity that was meant to titillate and nudity that was a beautiful expression of the human form."

 

While this is a simple statement many agree with, in days past - and with the wrong Bishop - she would be in direct opposition to her church leaders. Many of them have specifically addressed this attitude in talks.

 

I remember talks against any nudity in art as the camels nose under the tent type of stuff.

 

Again, a sick culture whose high priest has to be Mark E. Peterson, Apostle of idiocy who stated that in 40 plus years of marriage he had never seen his wife naked.

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The pictures are tastefully done representations of the variety of women's bodies, through different aspects of life (young women, middle aged, post-childbearing).

Unfortunately, I don't see this having much positive effect in the Mormon culture.

I do see it  ginning up the leering males and sneering females that permeate LDS society.

 
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KUTV covered this story a week back or so.  There was much commentary on it on their Facebook page.  Most of it was not supportive at all.  There was plenty about "inner beauty" without these people actually seeing these women for their inner beauty at all.

 

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Fascinating. I appreciate that the artist wants to address the particular Mormon emphasis of what, IMHO, is a societal ill.

 

Related...not trying to threadjack....  ...but I thought was interesting....was a photoshop of classic nudes to "today"s standards :

 

http://www.visualnews.com/2012/02/08/classic-beauties-get-a-shocking-photoshop-treatment/

 
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All I know is, they won't allow "nudes" in the BYU art museums....of any era.
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Fascinating. I appreciate that the artist wants to address the particular Mormon emphasis of what, IMHO, is a societal ill.

 

Related...not trying to threadjack....  ...but I thought was interesting....was a photoshop of classic nudes to "today"s standards :

 

http://www.visualnews.com/2012/02/08/classic-beauties-get-a-shocking-photoshop-treatment/

 

 It's such a dangerous habit they've created.  These unreal expectations of women's bodies are so hard on self esteem.  It wasn't until I saw a picture of Marilyn Monroe in her underwear that I finally become completely comfortable with my body as it is.  Sure I still want abs, but now at least it's more of a goal of fitness than wanting the "ideal" body.  Who cares if I have a little flab?

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Mashiara:

Fascinating. I appreciate that the artist wants to address the particular Mormon emphasis of what, IMHO, is a societal ill.

 

Related...not trying to threadjack....  ...but I thought was interesting....was a photoshop of classic nudes to "today"s standards :

 

http://www.visualnews.com/2012/02/08/classic-beauties-get-a-shocking-photoshop-treatment/

 

 It's such a dangerous habit they've created.  These unreal expectations of women's bodies are so hard on self esteem.  It wasn't until I saw a picture of Marilyn Monroe in her underwear that I finally become completely comfortable with my body as it is.  Sure I still want abs, but now at least it's more of a goal of fitness than wanting the "ideal" body.  Who cares if I have a little flab?

 

I doubt the presentations are created as an attack on self esteem. The choice to believe in perfectionistic views and the choice to self judge in comparison may lead to self defeat and self surrender of esteem. I think any"body" can present themselves positively without fear and with the light on. If it can't be changed why not accept it, be proud of it, and make the most of it?

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All I know is, they won't allow "nudes" in the BYU art museums....of any era.

At the same time the Rodin Exhibit was up there were paintings in another area showing full naked frontal breast of Pocahontas with Captain John Smith. There were also at least three more other paintings hanging at that time showing nudes, with one a full nude from the side. I know as I was there and went through the museum specifically to check out 'LDS Standards' in the museum.

 

The real culprit in this whole sad and shameful affair was the head master of BYU, Master Bate man. This jackass knew full well the museum agreed to show the entire exhibit two full years before it arrived. Thay knew every sculpture that would arrive. 

 

http://theboard.byu.edu/media/attached_files/r_61857/38310 Bateman responds on Rodin.htm

 

Read the article in the link and see just how slimy this bastard really is. The University reps knew full well that if they told the originators of the exhibit they would censor it that BYHigh would never get the show. So, they lied their azzes off about it and acted offended when they were the butt of jokes worldwide as a result.

 

The permanent Art collection at BYU has a number of nudes and partial nudes in it. The Photo Department even has had a noted Photographer of Nudes on staff for a number of years in Val Brinkerhoff.

 

The place is a good example of mormon 'honor' - lie and cheat to get what you want while making excuses the membership will buy into.

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Mashiara:

Fascinating. I appreciate that the artist wants to address the particular Mormon emphasis of what, IMHO, is a societal ill.

 

Related...not trying to threadjack....  ...but I thought was interesting....was a photoshop of classic nudes to "today"s standards :

 

http://www.visualnews.com/2012/02/08/classic-beauties-get-a-shocking-photoshop-treatment/

 

 It's such a dangerous habit they've created.  These unreal expectations of women's bodies are so hard on self esteem.  It wasn't until I saw a picture of Marilyn Monroe in her underwear that I finally become completely comfortable with my body as it is.  Sure I still want abs, but now at least it's more of a goal of fitness than wanting the "ideal" body.  Who cares if I have a little flab?

 

I doubt the presentations are created as an attack on self esteem. The choice to believe in perfectionistic views and the choice to self judge in comparison may lead to self defeat and self surrender of esteem. I think any"body" can present themselves positively without fear and with the light on. If it can't be changed why not accept it, be proud of it, and make the most of it?

 

 I meant the photoshopped versions.

 

Whether they are meant as an attack or not is beside the point.  They give us an unrealistic view of what a "perfect" body is.  They don't show fat rolls, curves are concave practically all the time, and legs and arms are so thin.

 

Wheras what I love about those portraits that are untouched is that they are real.  And if more people and ads could use real, unaltered images, it would help people realize that it's totally okay to have some fat.  I want more people to be able to accept themselves as they are.  I was saying that seeing an UNALTERED picture of Marilyn Munroe helped put into perspective that my body is okay. 

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really?!. I was not able to watch the testimonies,

http://mormonwomenbare.com/ 

Nice boobs  by the way...  

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This surprises me.  It is odd that artistic nudes could generate such interest, but the work does push the envelope within LDS society, so there is probably merit just from that.  I personally thought the photos were a beautiful, esthetic with a dash of erotic.  They look like real women, people I could know, beautiful just the way they are.
 
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It's worth reading what the women wrote about their bodies, beliefs, and the experience of posing for the photos.  I was surprised how their words seemed more candid and revealing than the photos.  It was moving and inspiring to me. 
 
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Each one of these women have done something incredibly brave.  In a culture where wareing pants to to curch is seen as edgy these women really deserve major respect for saying in such a powerful way, "my body is not Satan's tool, it is not dirty, and it is not just for pleaseing the horny preisthood holder I gave my body too."  I feel like these woman are making a very powerful statement about owning their identity, and even if they are the only ones hearing it, it was worth saying. 
 
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Each one of these women have done something incredibly brave.  In a culture where wareing pants to to curch is seen as edgy these women really deserve major respect for saying in such a powerful way, "my body is not Satan's tool, it is not dirty, and it is not just for pleaseing the horny preisthood holder I gave my body too."  I feel like these woman are making a very powerful statement about owning their identity, and even if they are the only ones hearing it, it was worth saying. 

 

Ain't that the truth! Jeez, every couple of years we get the "only wear a white shirt" talk for the men, but there is no talk about women wearing pants because it JUST.ISN'T.DONE.

 

Really, how pathetic is that?

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Each one of these women have done something incredibly brave.  In a culture where wareing pants to to curch is seen as edgy these women really deserve major respect for saying in such a powerful way, "my body is not Satan's tool, it is not dirty, and it is not just for pleaseing the horny preisthood holder I gave my body too."  I feel like these woman are making a very powerful statement about owning their identity, and even if they are the only ones hearing it, it was worth saying. 

 

Ain't that the truth! Jeez, every couple of years we get the "only wear a white shirt" talk for the men, but there is no talk about women wearing pants because it JUST.ISN'T.DONE.

 

Really, how pathetic is that?

 

 I never even considered them an option (mind you I also love wearing skirts). But why did I not wear pants in -30C weather?! Frig its COLD scraping the car in a skirt! Tights or not!

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I really appreciate what this woman is doing with this project.  This project is Empowering and part of claiming back what is ours - Our bodies and our sexuality.  As someone who believed and wore these god awful, fugly garments for years, this is great.  Yes, even mormon subculture within western culture, bodies and sexuality is still something to be ashamed of.  NO IT IS NOT!  And I will participate in this project myself if given the opportunity. Men and Women need to get over resisting OR reacting to the hornball of pavlonian stimulus of modern and pervasive pornography says women should look like and what they should do for a man.  It is all illusion and smoke and mirrors.

 

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I really appreciate what this woman is doing with this project.  This project is Empowering and part of claiming back what is ours - Our bodies and our sexuality.  As someone who believed and wore these god awful, fugly garments for years, this is great.  Yes, even mormon subculture within western culture, bodies and sexuality is still something to be ashamed of.  NO IT IS NOT!  And I will participate in this project myself if given the opportunity. Men and Women need to get over resisting OR reacting to the hornball of pavlonian stimulus of modern and pervasive pornography says women should look like and what they should do for a man.  It is all illusion and smoke and mirrors.

 

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