Families Held Hostage
 
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Your article touched my heart.  I have experienced much the same however as the man that had my wife join the church and do this to her family.  I have always hated the tyranny of the mission statement: no empty chairs! that mormon families often promote.  As a psychologist that used to teach a great number of patenting classes I remember reminding the LDS that God lost 1/3 to Satan. So much for no empty chairs.  Truely I was raised in Satan’s plan anyway. I’m glad all of that is behind me and I am hopeful you are to. Craig Pace

Posted by craig  on  11/15  at  07:51 PM

I have a number of comments.  First, referring to the “shivering in the december cold” statement, why?  They have a lobby.  You made it sound like they had to stand outside in the cold when they didn’t. 
Second, the church does not force anyone to do anything.  I don’t come from a large family and my parents have not been mistreated at all.  You make it sound like the church forces you to do all these things that aren’t doctrine, which is far from true.  How many kids you have as a couple has always been taught as a personal thing for each couple.  Third, if you pay tithing and you still need financial support, the church will help you especially if you have sons or daughters going on missions.
Fourth, You can have a ring ceremony if you want.  You could do it at the temple or at your reception with all your flowers and music.
Fifth, I have many friends who haven’t served missions or who haven’t been the most active and I have as well as many of my other friends supported him and loved him.  Please don’t make general or stereotypical comments about how all church members act.

Posted by batman25  on  07/19  at  02:35 PM

The mafia?  Are you seriously comparing the mafia with the church?  Did i miss something?  Does the church not teach kindness of love to everyone?  Refer to the hymn books for numerous examples.  Did you know that after the tsunami the church was the first to step up and help?  That’s just one of many examples of the church helping others outside of the “family”.

Posted by batman25  on  07/19  at  06:15 PM

Comments to Batman

The reason I converted to Mormonism was that I thought they were better people. I am not sure this is true and I agree with the comments made in Family Held Hostages.

A person I really cared for in my life is a mormon and he did not even send a word of comfort when my sister died twenty years ago. He did not even write a condoleance note when my mother died a few years back though he had stayed at our home more than 15 days.

Furthermore, this person is wealthy and never offered any help whatsoever should I ever need one.

To put things in perspective, this was also the attitude of some members of my family who happened to be catholics. So much so for brotherly love and the rest ...

No wonder some people have serious misgivings when it comes to religions.

Plus what does Batman think of the fact that women cannot attain the highest degree of celestial kingdom until their husband so decide. Who can claim of being a prophet of God and declares such downright fallacies ?

If God exists, his only message is to do unto others as we would like it done unto us and if it tells anything, ir is to respect, love, help and care for others as much as we can and have compassion for those who suffers.

I have not felt that with the mormons I have known.

Some have been nice but I can see they will never be true friends ....

Plus I think they have too narrow a view on people though there are also good things in the church.

Posted by BlueEyes  on  10/14  at  04:38 AM

I understand how the church tears families apart, and I agree with your article.

I too, had to wait outside the temple when my Dad was sealed to his immediate family because I wasn’t “worthy.”

His immediate family barely knew who he was, or what he stood for.  He didn’t go to the Mormon Church, but they didn’t hesitate to take care of things once he was gone…

It’s all about money in the long run.  I know there are many, many good people in the church who don’t understand that they have been lied to.  I don’t dislike them, but I know they are giving their money to a corporation that promises them eternal salvation.  It’s all wrong.

Posted by wintersfootsteps  on  10/14  at  06:48 PM

My wife converted back to Mormonism during our marriage. (She has been and still remains very ill with liver cancer.)
It has completely consumed her. See has been assigned Missionary Ward Leader. The boys come over and vist with her somtimes up to four to five hours a day. My wife is, non-white, an ex-social worker with an advance degree, with an extremely high IQ. She loves the social and religious interactions she receives from these well mannered boys. She is a great listener and teenagers love her.
She has converted both of her then teenagers boys to mormonism. She received a special compensation by the catholic church to have her then teenagers have their First Holy Communion Sacrament performed, by a retired preist who is the holiest living man I have ever meet. It brought him great joy to give the boys indivdual lessons and administor the rite to them. He dedicated his whole life working with and living with the poor and said daily mass up to 94, only to convert them back to mormonism a year after receiving their first holy communion.
My wife lives in a separate bedroom from me for the last one and half years. She shares this 10 by 10 room with my stepsons fiance. They spent all of their free time together.
She says she no longer wants a physical relationship with me and basically has comletely isolated me since her conversion.
First of all, I want to say, Please pray for her that Jesus grants her health. (She once believed Jesus is God)

Posted by GlenRobert  on  10/19  at  05:01 PM

Our daughter joined the LDS church and was later married in an LDS temple. We were excluded from the wedding ceremony by policy of the LDS Church. A bitter experience that broke our hearts.

A simple solution would be for couples with non-member family members to be married in a ceremony outside of the temple and then be “sealed” inside the temple later. This would allow for both an inclusive ceremony and the sacred rite. However, LDS couples in the US are actively discouraged from considering this option and those who do are penalized by church policy requiring them to wait one year to be sealed in the temple. Further, it has been my observation that couples who still choose this option are demeaned by church leaders and other members as being somehow “less than faithful”. 

However, this waiting period is not church policy in the UK, France, Germany, Japan and many other countries. Church policy there allows couples to marry in a ceremony outside the temple and to be sealed in the temple on the same day or another day of their choice. They are not required to wait the one year period.
Clearly, church doctrine permits this option.

If the LDS church is unwilling to allow non-LDS family and friends to be present at temple marriages (and I don’t think they should be forced to), they should at least eliminate the one year waiting period altogether. This would allow for a more inclusive ceremony and would be consistent with its own policy in other countries and other areas of the US.

If LDS church leaders are serious about doing their part to bridge the religious divide between themselves and other religions and honest about their “family values” PR they must change their cruel and unnecessary policy. It is simply time for the “pro-family” LDS church to stop coercing couples into breaking the hearts of those who love.

Posted by caedmon  on  05/04  at  09:47 AM

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