The Mormon Mask
 
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wow!!  i LOVE this article!  very insightful!!!  i now have learned a lot about me and the masks i’m now wearing....very good!!

Posted by poodledoodledude  on  04/28  at  03:38 PM

Thanks so much...I’m printing this for a friend I’m trying to keep from the baptismal font…

Posted by Bostonbarney  on  05/21  at  03:00 PM

I have noticed and disliked certain characteristics of mine, but hadn’t connected them to my mormon past until I read this wonderful article.  Now that I understand myself a little better, I will change myself for the better.  Thank you!

Posted by nymph  on  06/04  at  09:37 PM

Masquerade
(from Phantom of the Opera)

CHORUS
Masquerade! Paper faces on parade . . . Masquerade!

Hide your face, so the world will never find you!

Masquerade! Every face a different shade . . . Masquerade!

Look around - there’s another mask behind you!

Flash of mauve . . . Splash of puce . . .
Fool and king . . . Ghoul and goose . . . 
Green and black . . . Queen and priest . . .
Trace of rouge . . . Face of beast . . . 

Faces . . . Take your turn, take a ride on the merry-go-round . . . in an inhuman race . . .

Eye of gold . . . Thigh of blue . . .
True is false . . . Who is who . . .?
Curl of lip . . . Swirl of gown . . .
Ace of hearts . . . Face of clown . . .

Faces . . . Drink it in, drink it up, till you’ve drowned in the light . . . in the sound . . .

RAOUL/CHRISTINE
But who can name the face . . .?

ALL
Masquerade! Grinning yellows, spinning reds . . . Masquerade!

Take your fill - let the spectacle astound you!

Masquerade! Burning glances, turning heads . . . Masquerade!

Stop and stare at the sea of smiles around you!

Masquerade! Seething shadows breathing lies . . . Masquerade!

You can fool any friend who ever knew you!

Masquerade! Leering satyrs, peering eyes . . . Masquerade!

Run and hide - but a face will still pursue you!

Posted by George Bailey  on  06/07  at  03:18 PM

First of all I’m sorry to any of you who have been judged or felt that you’ve been judged by certain members of the church.  Most of components of the “mormon mask” stem from how you’ve been treated by other members of the church, not what the church teaches.  Just because many members of the church may be hypocrites or don’t live the way they should does not disprove the church.  Now if you don’t believe that the BOM is true that’s fine, but I don’t understand why you would leave the church just because of how certain people treated you.  Take what those type of people say for a grain of salt.

Posted by batman25  on  07/19  at  02:06 PM

Batman25, the biggest misconception about post-Mormons is the claim that they left the Church because someone mistreated them. The truth is, 95 percent or more of people who have left did so because the Church is not what it represents itself to be. Claiming it was because someone offended them or mistreated them is an insult and a cop out on the part of the Mormon making such a claim.

Posted by Jeff Ricks  on  07/19  at  04:23 PM

I agree with Jeff Ricks on this one.  I NEVER left the church because someone was rude to me.  I left because I started READING about the church.  It was then that I discovered the lies that I was being told.  Yes, in THAT I was offended.  I didn’t appreciate being lied to.  It wasn’t because someone was ‘rude’ to me in church!  I’m an adult now, and I would NEVER leave based solely on that.  I believed the church was true!  But now, I KNOW it isn’t, so why stay?

Posted by poodledoodledude  on  07/19  at  04:37 PM

Jeff, my post was directed towards those that were greatly impacted by being offended or mistreated.  I was especially talking about the brow beaten components.  If that doesn’t include you then no worries.  I do think that the “95 percent or more of people who have left did so because the Church is not what it represents itself to be.” is highly debatable.  Most of those who I know that and especially the ones I met on my mission left because they were mistreated and thought the members of the church were hypocrites.  It’s true, we all are hypocrites in one way or another because we aren’t perfect and don’t always do what we know we should.  My main point was that if anyone leaves the church for that reason it doesn’t make sense and I understand that not everyone leaves for that reason.

Posted by batman25  on  07/19  at  05:39 PM

Batman25: I know 100s of ex-Mormons. I have yet to meet a single one who left because they were offended. On another thread you stated “Please don’t make general or stereotypical comments about how all church members act.” You then proceed to pull out the #1 stereotype about ex-Mormons. I suggest you take your own advice.

Posted by John Larsen  on  07/19  at  05:49 PM

So the church isn’t true because people lied to you?  Who and what lies?  They must have been really significant or else you wouldn’t have left, right?  Or the church isn’t true because it isn’t what it represents itself to be?  Not quite sure what that means, but it seems to me that you were both affected by what certain members of the church did and so you left.  Not because you don’t believe the BOM, or in Jesus Christ, or in Prophets.  Let me know if I’m understanding correctly.

Posted by batman25  on  07/19  at  05:52 PM

John, i said most of those who I know that left the church left because they were offended or were mistreated, sometimes it was directly and sometimes indirectly.  That’s not a stereotype, that’s a fact.  I never said all, or most ex-mormons, I said most of those who I know.  There’s a big difference.

Posted by batman25  on  07/19  at  05:56 PM

i have ONE comment for batman25:  Do a google search on the “book of abraham” and THEN have the GALL to ask me, “what lies??!!”

Posted by poodledoodledude  on  07/19  at  06:15 PM

Just did.  I read the first study that was listed which was by Jeff Lindsay and it sounds like nothing is concrete.  You should read it.

Posted by batman25  on  07/19  at  06:47 PM

Why is it the trolls always hit the comments sections? Batman25: why don’t you go over to the community forum, post your concern and we can discuss it rather than foul up this place?

Posted by John Larsen  on  07/19  at  06:51 PM

keep reading....and don’t be afraid to REALLY study it.  you MUST have SOME questions for you to be on this site.  congratulations.  i remember being in your same boat.  for YEARS i believed.  also, don’t be afraid to look into other websites that may have more truth than what the church is willing to admit.  it’s hiding the “truth” for a reason.  it doesn’t want you to know about it, because it might shake your testimony.  also, yes, the book of abraham in my mind SHOULD be concrete IF joseph smith REALLY could read ancient text.  but, we all know he couldn’t, and it’s been proven.  again, i say, keep reading and delve a little deeper.  you may be surprised at what is hidden.  also, follow johns advice and post this on the community forum.  it will make it more readily available for EVERYONE in the group.  you’d be surprised at who may agree or disagree with you.  until then, welcome to the group newbie!!

Posted by poodledoodledude  on  07/19  at  10:09 PM

Thanks for welcoming me. A co-worker of mine actually just saw one of the billboards and told me about the site, so I was curious and checked it out.  I really don’t have any “questions” though.  I’m really firm in the mormon faith and I could never deny its truthfulness.  I’ve had way too many special experiences that would ever allow me to doubt even for a second.  I really know that the power of the priesthood is real!  I won’t go into details about experiences because I don’t believe that a internet site is appropriate for that.  I don’t even really know much about all of you as a whole, but I decided that I’d try and find out a little.  I like to try to understand people and their beliefs. 
Didn’t really know about the community forum and how it worked, but I’ll check it out.
Also not trying to be a troll, but I do see that there are some things on here that aren’t true and I’ll point those out when I see them.  Maybe even some fence-sitters will come back to my side. smile

Posted by batman25  on  07/19  at  10:46 PM

Oy vey.  I would be interested in batman explaining his “nothing is concrete” comment regarding the Book of Abraham.

His is the only statement that I have seen that is not true.

Posted by WestBerkeleyFlats  on  07/21  at  01:04 AM

Batman, check out where the original manuscript for the BOM came from. It was NOT the so called talblets. It was from a book Rev. Solomon Spadulding wrote as a fictional romance novel. Joe could not read or write so therefore Sidney Rigdon had to do the reading of the manuscript for him and he jusy added Bible verses to it and the 3 witnesses were only young boys on the other side of a blanket and NEVER did SEE Joe read anything. This information is the truth not the BOM

Posted by twystedsis1  on  07/21  at  12:50 PM

Bob, I think you would do a lot of good for a lot of people if you assembled a collection of your writings into a book.  No pressure grin

Posted by ruski_canuk  on  07/21  at  04:32 PM

ruski_canuk, unfortunitly it is already in book form.Rather a chapter in a book that I have. It was written in 1877 and put before Congress the next year and EVERYTHING in it was verified to be true. It was first printed in 1883 and I have an orginal copy of that issue. Being raised in Idaho as a protestant in the late ‘50’s early ‘60’s was really tough, so when I found this book I put it under lock and key. So when I found this site I knew it was time to start shariong it. Bless ALL who have wised up.wink))

Posted by twystedsis1  on  07/21  at  06:45 PM

Just a quick follow up to Batmans comment on Jeff Lindsay, Jeff’s a nice guy, but he’s the red-headed step child of mormon apologetics, not even the apologists from BYU will touch his stuff.  If you bring Jeff up here as a tried and true apologist for the church you’re gonna be laughed off the stage.

Posted by tbiter jack scott  on  07/23  at  10:16 PM

Oh, and brilliant article Bob.  I love reading your stuff.

Posted by tbiter jack scott  on  07/23  at  10:17 PM

I am in touch on a couple of other treads and I"m amazed at the number of people who are coming over to the truth. When “Joe” was a small boy they had to move alot because his father was a suth-sayer(sp?) a peeping Tom and was ran out of every town they lived in. So Joe never learned to read or write but his Momma did make him memorize Bible verses. So when Sidney Rigdon got the manuscript that Rev. Solomon Spaulding had written,as a FICTIONAL romance novel, Joe just threw in Bible versus to make it sound good. Now, the 3 little boys that were the so called “witnesses” were on the other side of the blanket and never did see Joe read anything--let alone some ancient tablets. Later all 3 boys decanted their statements and said that they really hadn’t “witnessed” anything and they were excommunicated. You just can’t say things like that with out someone getting mad;-))). Anyway, just alittle more true history for you all.

Posted by twystedsis1  on  07/24  at  04:33 PM

The Rev. Spaulding theory has been proven false.
1. The historical record indicates that Sidney Rigdon first learned of the Book of Mormon from Parley P. Pratt and his missionary companions in November 1830, and that Rigdon did not meet Joseph Smith until December of that same year. All of this was long after the Book of Mormon was translated and published. Critics can only marshal circumstantial evidence of a conspiracy in which Rigdon met Joseph much earlier, then later pretended to be converted to Mormonism.

• Davis H. Bays, The Doctrines and Dogmas of Mormonism Examined and Refuted, (St. Louis: Christian Publishing, 1897), 22, 25

[This theory is] “erroneous, and it will lead to almost certain defeat.... The facts are all opposed to this view, and the defenders of the Mormon dogma have the facts well in hand.... The Spaulding story is a failure. Do not attempt to rely upon it — it will let you down.”

• Fawn Brodie, No Man Knows My History (New York, A. A. Knopf, 1945).

Posted by Gronom  on  12/16  at  10:57 PM

The book I have was put together in 1876 and put before Congress in 1877, was authenticated as all items being truthful. The one chapter in this truly interesting HISTORY book is the “Rise of Mormonism”. It tells alot of the beginning of the sect known as Mormonism. It tells the story of the start of the BoM, the problems they had in the Midwest and the move to the Utah Territory. This book was printed in 1883 and I have a leather bound first edition of this book. Therefore, it has never been changed, deleted, twisted, spun, or revised by anyone with the church or someones bad memory. I will stick by this version of the truth rather than one that has alot of church-spin on it.

Posted by twystedsis1  on  12/20  at  12:25 AM

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