Spinoza's God quote by Albert Einstein

[helemon]

I found this on RfM and thought people here could appreciate it:
I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings. -Albert Einstein

[peter_mary]

I found this on RfM and thought people here could appreciate it:
Sooo...Albert was in the Intelligent Design camp?

And here I thought he was a genius... :p

Peter_Mary

[helemon]

Sooo...Albert was in the Intelligent Design camp?

And here I thought he was a genius... :p

Peter_Mary

When I read that quote it sounds like his God is the forces of nature not necessarily a God in the sense that religions imagine him. Also note that Einstein's God does not care about human affairs. Intelligent design argues that God is consciously directing the evolutionary process.

[peter_mary]

When I read that quote it sounds like his God is the forces of nature not necessarily a God in the sense that religions imagine him. Also note that Einstein's God does not care about human affairs. Intelligent design argues that God is consciously directing the evolutionary process.
Helemon,

Actually, as I wrote my tongue-in-cheek response, I was thinking about a letter to the editor in our local paper published Monday. In that letter, the author claimed that one of the best evidences for intelligent design was the orderly, even symmetric/geometric patterns that run the length of many snakes. "Wouldn't you think that if life just happened randomly, like the evolutionists claim, that the coloration on snakes would be more splotchy, like camoflauge?" :rolleyes:

So when I read "orderly harmony" I'm thinking "geomtric symmetry on snakes" and thinking, "Oh my heck! That's ID!"

For the record, this same author went on record as having observed that all the theories that support evolution have been debunked (WTF?), and that further evidence of ID is the fact that humans grow "beautiful, long hair that they can shape and wear in so many attractive ways, while animals' hair only grows to a certain length and then stops, because they can't cut it." So there you go. Who can argue with THAT kind of reasoning?

Peter_Mary

[helemon]

For the record, this same author went on record as having observed that all the theories that support evolution have been debunked (WTF?), and that further evidence of ID is the fact that humans grow "beautiful, long hair that they can shape and wear in so many attractive ways, while animals' hair only grows to a certain length and then stops, because they can't cut it." So there you go. Who can argue with THAT kind of reasoning?

Peter_Mary

Ha! Tell that to a Sikh who believes it is a sin to cut their hair! Human hair folicles also go through a growth and dormancy cycle. If a person did not cut their hair it would grow to around three feet in length then fall out to be replaced by a new shaft of hair when the folicle comes out of dormancy.
http://www.pg.com/science/haircare/hair_twh_23.htm

Animal hair tends to go through cycles related to the seasons so that as the weather gets colder the fur gets thicker and then when the temperature warms up the fuzzy insulating fur falls out. I had an Australian Red Heeler for a few years and she shed like crazy in the spring.
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/4/46/180px-AustrCattleDogRed_wb.jpg
As for the snakes, many are brightly colored in order to warn would be predators of their toxicity, like the brightly colored poison dart frogs. Also if the snakes were camouflaged these same people would use it as evidence of ID because only God would be able to so perfectly camoflauge the snakes appearance. Also here is a snake that I think is pretty well camouflaged.

http://images.wildmadagascar.org/pictures/masoala/Langaha%20madagascariensis%20female%201.JPG

[Fredl]

As I've mentioned a few times in the past, I've started reading again. Just finished the book on Evolution I mentioned recently and right now I'm reading about Quantum Physics.

I've definitely gone through a "Paradigm Shift" in the direction of a mental model that gives primacy to a modern scientific understanding of the world, human nature and the nature of reality. At this point, I find Mormon doctrine and the Mormon "Reality Model" not just silly but actually contemptable in it's ignorance or denial of what Science knows about the universe and the history of our planet.

I suppose many Post, Ex, whatever Mormons are too traumatized to see what an incredible world exists outside of the Mormon Reality Distortion Field. Believe me friends, those that are able to make it will be amazed and pleased at what they find.

Fred