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puff
4th January 2006, 11:30 PM
I have learnt a lot of interesting things on post mo , such as
cognitive disonance ( beliefs that fight against each other )

phsyco systematic disorder ( mentaly stressed to the point were physical symtoms appear in the body ) and many other things which have been so helpfull

its only when i go back to tscc for a brief visit or talk to people still in it that i realize how far i have progressed .

I am standing alone on my own two feet , i,m facing god all by myself , and thats how it should be , i,m making decisions based on what i can see as being realities ,

i am accepting life one day at a time , i am no longer stressed out of my mind or living with this rejection complex that there is something wrong with me for not fitting into a caustic religeous programme , its been a long journey but finaly i am feeling happy inside again , i have realized something about myself , if i am not free , i am never happy ,
most of all , i am enjoying seeing life for what it is , a mystery spanning billions of years , sometimes i sit for long moments and soak that up , its a special and unique , what a pity i wasted 30 years living in a mental hell hole , one good thing about it tho , i least now i apreciate what mental freedom is

lunaverse
5th January 2006, 01:12 AM
yay!

Luna

miss taken
5th January 2006, 07:27 AM
least now i apreciate what mental freedom is

I really agree with this Puff. I appreciate the time I have to evalutate things without thinking that something 'has' to be the case. In an ironic way, I think that religious dogma, from no matter what religion it is, can be a killer of true spirituality. I do feel more authentically spiritual now, than I ever did in the church. Not that that is true for everyone, but it is certainly the case for me.


Mary

free thinker
5th January 2006, 04:52 PM
Congradulations on your new found freedom.

I have found that being grounded in what I consider to be more formal reality, is a more secure feeling than the mysteries that religion provides.

ft

Born Free
5th January 2006, 05:44 PM
I have learnt a lot of interesting things on post mo , such as
cognitive disonance ( beliefs that fight against each other )

phsyco systematic disorder ( mentaly stressed to the point were physical symtoms appear in the body ) and many other things which have been so helpfull

its only when i go back to tscc for a brief visit or talk to people still in it that i realize how far i have progressed .

I am standing alone on my own two feet , i,m facing god all by myself , and thats how it should be , i,m making decisions based on what i can see as being realities ,

i am accepting life one day at a time , i am no longer stressed out of my mind or living with this rejection complex that there is something wrong with me for not fitting into a caustic religeous programme , its been a long journey but finaly i am feeling happy inside again , i have realized something about myself , if i am not free , i am never happy ,
most of all , i am enjoying seeing life for what it is , a mystery spanning billions of years , sometimes i sit for long moments and soak that up , its a special and unique , what a pity i wasted 30 years living in a mental hell hole , one good thing about it tho , i least now i apreciate what mental freedom is

I am always amused by the similarlities in this part of our experience, inspite of the other elements.

Just on jargon, the 2nd one is psychosomatic. One dictionary formally defines it as:

psy·cho·so·mat·ic - adj.

1. Of or relating to a disorder having physical symptoms but originating from mental or emotional causes.

2. Relating to or concerned with the influence of the mind on the body, especially with respect to disease.

In turn:

so·mat·ic - adj.
1. Of, relating to, or affecting the body, especially as distinguished from a body part, the mind, or the environment; corporeal or physical.

I think it valuable to acknowledge that while religion is helpful for some people, for others, continuing to stunt themslves to stay inside its belief system, is a significant health-hazard. For those people, whilst leaving can be stressful in the transition, it is ultimately health-saving or restoring. Sadly, what you describe here is too common. Much religion is actively toxic to self-esteem.

I always take delight in seeing people heal as you describe here Puff. More power to you!!

Daryl