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helemon
11th January 2006, 07:22 PM
Is is just me or does anyone else find it coicidental that the three new temples being built in So. SLC are near some of the wealthiest neighborhoods in the Valley? I doubt they are being built because all the other temples in the area are running at full capacity. It is more likely that they were built to further guilt rich members into keeping their temple recommends by keeping that tithing money flowing.

noodle
11th January 2006, 09:10 PM
Is is just me or does anyone else find it coicidental that the three new temples being built in So. SLC are near some of the wealthiest neighborhoods in the Valley? I doubt they are being built because all the other temples in the area are running at full capacity. It is more likely that they were built to further guilt rich members into keeping their temple recommends by keeping that tithing money flowing.

I was told by someone looking to buy a house in the vicinity of one of the new South Salt Lake temples that the prices of new houses (still under construction) immediately jumped 20-30% with the announcement of the temple going in.

free thinker
11th January 2006, 10:15 PM
More temples in SLC!! I guess that is one thing that valley needs is more mormon influence. :Crazy:

There has not been in some time a religion that feeds more egregiously on the tokens of wealth and prosperity. Mormonism has become a faith of acheivers and wealth gatherers.

If I were a family of modest income, and I saw this lavish spending going on around me, I would be offended. All that tithing money spent on these ornate buildings that are nominally used.

ft

peter_mary
11th January 2006, 10:27 PM
I was told by someone looking to buy a house in the vicinity of one of the new South Salt Lake temples that the prices of new houses (still under construction) immediately jumped 20-30% with the announcement of the temple going in.
Repeat after me..."The Mormons are not a cult...the Mormons are not a cult...the Mormons are not a cult...send me all your money...the Mormons are not a cult...

I've posted this before, a long, long time ago, but it is well known among the leadership of the church that wherever a temple is built, tithing goes up in order for local membership to attend more regularly. They pay for themselves very quickly, and are a sound investment for the church.

Judging from the 10,000 plus people who showed up just for the ground-breaking ceremony for the Rexburg (Provo-North) temple, I'd say tithing is about to go up in the Rexburg stakes of Zion.

In addition, the church's resources are stretched by poorer members in third-world nations, and the church recognizes who butters their bread...white Americans in the intermountain west and California. Subsequently, where you used to see most of the bright missionaries being sent overseas, now you see a disproportionate number serving "stateside," with native missionaries picking up a bigger share of the work in their own countries. That bodes well for the bottom line, too, as it increases the membership of Americans who have more money. (I don't in any way mean to disrespect my European and Austral-Asian friends on this forum...but the truth is, your countrymen are hardly flocking to the church, and the tithing just can't keep up with the demands of the monster!)

Anyway, all of that is to say that Helemon is probably right in his assessment that these temples are probably the result of two things: the political pressure that wealthy church members have in "encouraging" temples to be built in their neighborhoods, and bottom line goals of the church.

firefly
11th January 2006, 10:37 PM
Where exactly are they being built? I heard one was going in at the Daybreak community.

Born Free
11th January 2006, 11:07 PM
I am just so sad there isn't another one of those McTemples being built here on the north side of the Brisbane River.

They add so much of what really matters to the world.

Daryl

bobcat
12th January 2006, 01:54 AM
Where exactly are they being built? I heard one was going in at the Daybreak community.

One is near Daybreak, and another will be in the "southwest part of the valley." I think the other is being built in Corner Canyon, in Draper.

I was told by someone looking to buy a house in the vicinity of one of the new South Salt Lake temples that the prices of new houses (still under construction) immediately jumped 20-30% with the announcement of the temple going in.

I don't doubt it. My parents moved to a new house in Bountiful, about two blocks from the temple site they announced a year later. And their home price had appreciated something like 30-40% by the time the temple was complete. Not a bad investment :D

jamerica
12th January 2006, 06:41 AM
I really don't mind that the church chooses to waste its money on these temples. After all it is not my money any more. The church can spend itself into oblivion for all I care (please! please! please!)

As to the motivation of the church it should be obvious that the scam of building temples is to show to the world that it is a dynamic, vibrant and growing church. This is similar to the church's misrepresentation of total membership and activity in the church. How many members would leave the church if it became obvious that the church is not the babtizing mega machine that it potrays itself to be. How many more would leave if they knew that the growth rate is actually in the negative (my personal opinion). Fastest growing religion my ass!

It is also my understanding is that the current temples in the Salt Lake Valley are expiriencing record lows in attendence so what is that purpose of building these things?

I say let the church build and build and build, let the active members go to an empty temple by themselves and feel for themselves that all is not well for the church, at least they will be able to see that stupid video by themselves. The building of these temples is just a PR game. A weak attempt to show that the church is so strong and vibrant that it needs to build build build. What a crock of shit and I say let them do it. :D

noodle
12th January 2006, 07:08 AM
What happens to all of these buildings if and when more and more people decide NOT to participate? I'm thinking of the churches in parts of Europe and in the U.S. (like Boston) where cathedrals and churches are being converted to condominium units. Can't this money be put to better use? Let's see...humanitarian issues vs ostentatious buildings? :duh

papa
12th January 2006, 05:16 PM
consider also that there has arisen a church-supported construction industry that, like US GUV agencies, once created, must be fed. Bud Bailey and their ilk must have works projects to keep that tithing money flowing to its real owners, the "favored members".