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skeptic
20th January 2006, 01:17 PM
Research shows that families headed by gay and lesbian parents are as healthy as traditional families, but misperceptions linger.

see: http://www.apa.org/monitor/dec05/kids.html

Patterson's and others' findings that good parenting, not a parent's sexual orientation, leads to mentally healthy children may not surprise many psychologists.

But as a group, the children of lesbian moms are just as well-adjusted as children from more traditional families, according to the data from Gartrell's National Longitudinal Lesbian Family Study.

The TBM response: These folks are missled :eek:

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free thinker
21st January 2006, 03:17 PM
I find this interesting, but I am not surprised. The gay and lesbian folks I know are great people. I would not be the least bit surprised if they raise healthy, happy children.

I would have to guess that because of the nature of having to aquire a child, if they did not already have them before entering the relationship, they are much more appreciative of having the child. Kid's know one thing very well. They have a deep, and seemingly inherent sense, of how valued they are.

And the universal human language is love. We know when we are loved, and when the love we are giving is genuine.


My Take.

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skeptic
21st January 2006, 09:10 PM
[QUOTE=free thinker]I find this interesting, but I am not surprised. The gay and lesbian folks I know are great people. I would not be the least bit surprised if they raise healthy, happy children.

I would have to guess that because of the nature of having to aquire a child, if they did not already have them before entering the relationship, they are much more appreciative of having the child. Kid's know one thing very well. They have a deep, and seemingly inherent sense, of how valued they are.

And the universal human language is love. We know when we are loved, and when the love we are giving is genuine.


My Take.

__________________________________________________ _
Free Thinker,
I sure agree with your feelings that kids need to feel valued and loved. I think this and good parenting skills are key to raising children for success. Having a child take responsibility for their mistakes, and the importance of catching them doing things that are right.

I have an ultra TBM stepson who is a high school psychologist. He tells me nearly all psychologists are affiliated with the APA. I am sure tempted ask him how he reconciles the APA’s statement and the “Church’s Proclamation for the Family?

SoUtSkeptic

flotsam
22nd January 2006, 01:42 AM
I was so tickled when I found out that the term for a baby given to a gay couple from a surrogate mother is called a "gayby."

skeptic
22nd January 2006, 02:28 PM
Some Jim Dandy quotes regarding the Proclamation to the World for the Family.

Elder M. Russell Ballard

http://library.lds.org/nxt/gateway.dll?f=templates$fn=default.htm$xhitlist_q= Proclamation%20to%20the%20Family$xhitlist_x=Simple $xhitlist_s=relevance-weight$xhitlist_d=$xhitlist_hc=%5BXML%5D%5Bkwic%2C 0%5D$xhitlist_xsl=xhitlist.xsl$xhitlist_vpc=first$ xhitlist_sel=title%3Bpath%3Bcontent-type%3Bhome-title%3Bhit-context%3Bfield%3Azr%3Bfield%3ARef

Brothers and sisters, this year marks the 10th anniversary of the proclamation to the world on the family, which was issued by the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles in 1995 (see “The Family: A Proclamation to the World,” Liahona, Oct. 2004, 49; Ensign, Nov. 1995, 102). It was then and is now a clarion call to protect and strengthen families and a stern warning in a world where declining values and misplaced priorities threaten to destroy society by undermining its basic unit.
The proclamation is a prophetic document, not only because it was issued by prophets but because it was ahead of its time. It warns against many of the very things that have threatened and undermined families during the last decade and calls for the priority and the emphasis families need if they are to survive in an environment that seems ever more toxic to traditional marriage and to parent-child relationships.
__________________________________________________ __President Gordon B. Hinckley


http://library.lds.org/nxt/gateway.dll?f=templates$fn=default.htm$xhitlist_q= Proclamation%20to%20the%20world%20on%20the%20famil y$xhitlist_x=Simple$xhitlist_s=relevance-weight$xhitlist_d=Magazines/ensign$xhitlist_hc=%5BXML%5D%5Bkwic%2C0%5D$xhitlis t_xsl=xhitlist.xsl$xhitlist_vpc=first$xhitlist_sel =title%3Bpath%3Bcontent-type%3Bhome-title%3Bhit-context%3Bfield%3Azr%3Bfield%3ARef

There are those who would have us believe in the validity of what they choose to call same-sex marriage…
I have touched lightly on some of the serious problems which confront many of you sisters.

With so much of sophistry that is passed off as truth, with so much of deception concerning standards and values, with so much of allurement and enticement to take on the slow stain of the world, we have felt to warn and forewarn. In furtherance of this we of the First Presidency and the Council of the Twelve Apostles now issue a proclamation to the Church and to the world as a declaration and reaffirmation of standards, doctrines, and practices relative to the family which the prophets, seers, and revelators of this church have repeatedly stated throughout its history...

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helemon
22nd January 2006, 02:43 PM
Some Jim Dandy quotes regarding the Proclamation to the World for the Family.

Elder M. Russell Ballard

http://library.lds.org/nxt/gateway.dll?f=templates$fn=default.htm$xhitlist_q= Proclamation%20to%20the%20Family$xhitlist_x=Simple $xhitlist_s=relevance-weight$xhitlist_d=$xhitlist_hc=%5BXML%5D%5Bkwic%2C 0%5D$xhitlist_xsl=xhitlist.xsl$xhitlist_vpc=first$ xhitlist_sel=title%3Bpath%3Bcontent-type%3Bhome-title%3Bhit-context%3Bfield%3Azr%3Bfield%3ARef

Brothers and sisters, this year marks the 10th anniversary of the proclamation to the world on the family, which was issued by the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles in 1995 (see “The Family: A Proclamation to the World,” Liahona, Oct. 2004, 49; Ensign, Nov. 1995, 102). It was then and is now a clarion call to protect and strengthen families and a stern warning in a world where declining values and misplaced priorities threaten to destroy society by undermining its basic unit.
The proclamation is a prophetic document, not only because it was issued by prophets but because it was ahead of its time. It warns against many of the very things that have threatened and undermined families during the last decade and calls for the priority and the emphasis families need if they are to survive in an environment that seems ever more toxic to traditional marriage and to parent-child relationships.
__________________________________________________ __President Gordon B. Hinckley


http://library.lds.org/nxt/gateway.dll?f=templates$fn=default.htm$xhitlist_q= Proclamation%20to%20the%20world%20on%20the%20famil y$xhitlist_x=Simple$xhitlist_s=relevance-weight$xhitlist_d=Magazines/ensign$xhitlist_hc=%5BXML%5D%5Bkwic%2C0%5D$xhitlis t_xsl=xhitlist.xsl$xhitlist_vpc=first$xhitlist_sel =title%3Bpath%3Bcontent-type%3Bhome-title%3Bhit-context%3Bfield%3Azr%3Bfield%3ARef

There are those who would have us believe in the validity of what they choose to call same-sex marriage…
I have touched lightly on some of the serious problems which confront many of you sisters.

With so much of sophistry that is passed off as truth, with so much of deception concerning standards and values, with so much of allurement and enticement to take on the slow stain of the world, we have felt to warn and forewarn. In furtherance of this we of the First Presidency and the Council of the Twelve Apostles now issue a proclamation to the Church and to the world as a declaration and reaffirmation of standards, doctrines, and practices relative to the family which the prophets, seers, and revelators of this church have repeatedly stated throughout its history...

SoUtSkeptic

Freakanomics says that kids who have both parents is not correlated with high test scores. Having highly educated parents is,as is kids born to a woman who waited until 30 to have their first child do better in school. Dang, the prophets are wrong again!