Scripture help

[tjohnson]

My wife and I have been talking about the plural marriage issue. :Puking

We both remember being taught in Seminary that in order to live in the highest level of the Celestial Kingdom, you would be required to practice the celestial law. This law would include plural marriage. However, I have been unable to find an actual scriptural reference to this. Can someone help? :D

[silverfox]

My wife and I have been talking about the plural marriage issue. :Puking

We both remember being taught in Seminary that in order to live in the highest level of the Celestial Kingdom, you would be required to practice the celestial law. This law would include plural marriage. However, I have been unable to find an actual scriptural reference to this. Can someone help? :D

If I remember correctly when I researched this many years ago all I could find were quotes from profits. Nothing scriptural.

See if this link helps:

http://messenger.mormonfundamentalism.org/cpmr.htm

There is the infamous D&C Section 132 (emphasis mine) but it seems the focus is more on being damned rather than reaching exaltation - all in how it is interpreted I guess:

Doctrine and Covenants, Section 132:


Verse 3 — Therefore, prepare thy heart to receive and obey the instructions which I am about to give unto you; for all those who have this law revealed unto them must obey the same.
Verse 4 — For behold, I reveal unto you a new and an everlasting covenant; and if ye abide not that covenant, then are ye damned. Verse 5 — And as pertaining unto the new and everlasting covenant, it was instituted for the fulness of my glory; and he that receiveth a fulness thereof must and shall obey the law, or he shall be damned, saith the Lord.

[Born Free]

My wife and I have been talking about the plural marriage issue. :Puking

We both remember being taught in Seminary that in order to live in the highest level of the Celestial Kingdom, you would be required to practice the celestial law. This law would include plural marriage. However, I have been unable to find an actual scriptural reference to this. Can someone help? :D

tjohnson

I was most active in the 70s and 80s, and during that period plural marriage (as facilitated by the Temple) was consistently referred to in lesson manuals as The Eternal Covenant. I have long since thrown any manuals I had. It is times like this when I would like to have them to hand. (Does the Church archive those things anywhere or are they a casualty of rewriting history?)

I recall recently reading somewhere that the Church is now placing a lot of distance between itself and that doctrine, probably as it tries to take itself into the mainstream of Christianity.

Oh the joys of God's eternally true, unchanging and evolving Gospel! (WTF?)

Daryl

[free thinker]

I thought all you had to do to get to the Celestial Kingdom was let Joseph Smith marry your wife, or sister, or daughter, etc? :Crazy:

Free Thinker

[miss taken]

What really annoys me, is where an LDS man has an affair. Wife is admonished to stay by him. He just laps it up, then wife finally divorces him. And guess what....
She has to wait around for years for a temple divorce, in the meantime, he repents (ha ha) and gets married in the temple to another woman because he can be married to more than one woman consequetively in the temple.

Wife is punished cause she can't marry in temple again until her divorce comes through.

In that way 'eternal marriage' is still practiced.

Unless they have changed things in last few years???

Mary

[silverfox]

What really annoys me, is where an LDS man has an affair. Wife is admonished to stay by him. He just laps it up, then wife finally divorces him. And guess what....
She has to wait around for years for a temple divorce, in the meantime, he repents (ha ha) and gets married in the temple to another woman because he can be married to more than one woman consequetively in the temple.

Wife is punished cause she can't marry in temple again until her divorce comes through.

In that way 'eternal marriage' is still practiced.

Unless they have changed things in last few years???

Mary

It was hell getting a temple divorce. I had to be reinterviewed I don't know how many times and asked the same stupid questions over a period of a couple years. They wanted to make absolutely certain I was WORTHY. I even got a call while at work from some suits downtown!!!! Asking very intimate questions about my marriage, divorce, etc on the phone. Who the hell were they???? (I can't remember their names although I know I have it in a folder somewhere) grrrrrrrr Of course I obliged them and answered every question correctly. I was a single mom for two years before remarrying and you know what that means!!! So I am sure they wanted to make sure I wasn't the sex fiend most members seem to think singel moms are. Ha!

I had gotten engaged and we waited another year while the temple divorce was in progress. When it wasn't within that year we married civily. We fought to get the temple divorce so we could be sealed before our first child was born. That didn't happen. We were sealed after her birth when she was 2 months old.

What pisses me off is they had to get my EX HUSBANDS PERMISSION to grant a temple divorce. He refused at first. But then he met a lady and got remarried and that made it easier. He gloated in continuing to have control over my personal life. The church fueled nothing but hate between us. They didn't care what he did to me during the marriage. It was an insulting and demeaning experience. And put lots of strain on my new marriage as hubby was under a lot of pressure from his TBM family.

I finally got the temple divorce and was told in the letter to not disclose it to anyone because they decided to give it to me before the waiting period. WAITING PERIOD???? Like two years wasn't long enough????

I am angry thinking of the control the church takes over the very personal aspects of it's members. It's WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, AND VERY DAMAGING.

[miss taken]

It was hell getting a temple divorce. I had to be reinterviewed I don't know how many times and asked the same stupid questions over a period of a couple years. They wanted to make absolutely certain I was WORTHY. I even got a call while at work from some suits downtown!!!! Asking very intimate questions about my marriage, divorce, etc on the phone. Who the hell were they???? (I can't remember their names although I know I have it in a folder somewhere) grrrrrrrr Of course I obliged them and answered every question correctly. I was a single mom for two years before remarrying and you know what that means!!! So I am sure they wanted to make sure I wasn't the sex fiend most members seem to think singel moms are. Ha!

I had gotten engaged and we waited another year while the temple divorce was in progress. When it wasn't within that year we married civily. We fought to get the temple divorce so we could be sealed before our first child was born. That didn't happen. We were sealed after her birth when she was 2 months old.

What pisses me off is they had to get my EX HUSBANDS PERMISSION to grant a temple divorce. He refused at first. But then he met a lady and got remarried and that made it easier. He gloated in continuing to have control over my personal life. The church fueled nothing but hate between us. They didn't care what he did to me during the marriage. It was an insulting and demeaning experience. And put lots of strain on my new marriage as hubby was under a lot of pressure from his TBM family.

I finally got the temple divorce and was told in the letter to not disclose it to anyone because they decided to give it to me before the waiting period. WAITING PERIOD???? Like two years wasn't long enough????

I am angry thinking of the control the church takes over the very personal aspects of it's members. It's WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, AND VERY DAMAGING.

If I am angry about anything in the church on behalf of women, it is/was the system for temple divorce, which seems to heavily favour the man, no matter whether he has been a complete and utter bas*&rd or not.

I know personally of where a wife was completely innocent of any wrong doing, yet the church system favoured her adulterous husband.

WRONG WRONG WRONG!
Mary

[pokatator]

My wife and I have been talking about the plural marriage issue. :Puking

We both remember being taught in Seminary that in order to live in the highest level of the Celestial Kingdom, you would be required to practice the celestial law. This law would include plural marriage. However, I have been unable to find an actual scriptural reference to this. Can someone help? :D
Try:

http://www.helpingmormons.org/joseph_smith_and_women.htm

http://www.helpingmormons.org/polygamy.htm

http://www.helpingmormons.org/celestial_law.htm

I really like this website, it has some really good stuff on the temple ceremonies and temple satanic symbols, lots of pictures.

Randy