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noodle
8th November 2006, 07:50 AM
Thought that I'd share an email that arrived in my inbox yesterday. You fellow post-mos might get a charge outta this one!


Seoul Temple Promise
by Steve Cale, Osan Air Base, Republic of Korea, 28 Feb 2004

The temple in Seoul Korea has a promise of temporal protection attached to it. I know of no other temple in the world for which temple attendance will protect the country from war.

I'm a Korean linguist for the U.S. Air Force. I've been stationed in Korea for 12 of the last 22 years. I served my mission in Sendai, Japan and then returned home to Idaho and married my wife Lauri. I joined the Air Force in 1982 and was sent to the Defense Language Institute in Monterey, California to learn Korean. I was then assigned to Osan Air Base and arrived in Korea in 1984. I am an Intelligence professional.

On December 14, 1985, my wife and I were privileged to attend the dedication of the Seoul Temple. The day was very cold and the wind was blowing very strong, but as we waited in the parking lot of the temple for our session, we were kept warm by the many friends surrounding us. We entered the temple and took our seats.

President Gordon B. Hinckley, who was a counselor in the First Presidency at the time, was to dedicate the temple. In his remarks before the dedicatory prayer, he made a comment that was so startling, that I committed it to memory. He said, "If you will use this temple, you need not fear an invasion from the north." What a great promise!

I also remember the remark, because during my mission, I had the opportunity to work with Elder Kikuchi of the Seventy. He was also at the dedication and afterwards as we were talking, he remarked how neat that promise was. My family left Korea in 1986 and returned in 1988 for a second tour. We stayed that time until 1991. The Saints in Korea had been attending the temple regularly and I feel this is why the 1988 Olympic Games were held without incident even though the North Koreans had threatened to disrupt them.

In 1993, my family and I returned yet again to Korea and at that time, tensions were increasing over the possible development by the North Koreans of nuclear weapons. In 1994, it actually appeared that we might go to war with North Korea over this issue. Even though I had heard a prophet of the Lord declare that we would be protected, I began to doubt the promise. I wondered if perhaps I had misunderstood President Hinckley's words that day.

That summer, many of us were invited to Seoul to a training session with Elder Boyd K. Packer and Elder Henry Eyring. The chapel in Shingdang was filled with church leaders both Korean and American.


Elder Eyring spoke first and then Elder Packer stood up to speak. He let us know that "training" was not the only reason that he and Elder Eyring had come to Korea. He told us that President Hinckley was concerned for the safety of the saints in Korea. Therefore, the day before President Packer and Elder Eyring had gone up to the Demilitarized Zone, the border between North and South Korea, and had performed a priesthood ordinance which placed guardian angels at that border. He told us that because of our faithfulness in attending the temple, we would be protected.


I don't know if I was more surprised to hear that there were actually guardian angels at the border, or that there was a priesthood ordinance to put them there. One Korean stake president asked Elder Packer, how long will they be there?" His answer was, "as long as they are needed and you are faithful in your temple attendance." Now I knew we were safe for I had heard the promise twice.


In 1996, President Hinckley came to Korea on his way to Hong Kong to dedicate the temple there. He held a regional conference in Seoul, which we attended. During his remarks at this conference, he made reference to the temple promise, and said he was going to change it. He told us that we now needed to attend the temple faithfully, and also appreciate it. He told us that we were all being protected by the Lord because we had done as we were told.

This was the third time I had heard the promise and the second time from President Hinckley's own mouth.

I know that this promise is true. I have seen events happen in conjunction with my job, in which many times the experts have been confused as to why the North Koreans did not attack. I know it is because they cannot.

As a member of the U.S. Air Force, part of my job is to help protect the Republic of Korea from attack. I feel as a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, I can do more to protect South Korea by attending the temple. As long as the saints in Korea attend the temple they are protected. I have been so blessed to not only witness the prophet of the Lord proclaim this great promise, but also have been here to see the fulfillment of those words.


mamajama :neener:

puff
8th November 2006, 01:27 PM
Thought that I'd share an email that arrived in my inbox yesterday. You fellow post-mos might get a charge outta this one!



mamajama :neener: Hmmmm i wonder if they built a temple in iraq that would work to , perhaps the church should offer its services to the pentagon as the ultimate deterent , who needs nuclear weapons when you have angels

peter_mary
8th November 2006, 03:34 PM
Hmmmm i wonder if they built a temple in iraq that would work to , perhaps the church should offer its services to the pentagon as the ultimate deterent , who needs nuclear weapons when you have angels
Puff, dude,

I had the EXACT same thought. I'm guessing the MORMONS have had the same thought, too...only without the cynicism...:duh

elder_nomo
8th November 2006, 05:47 PM
Puff, dude,

I had the EXACT same thought. I'm guessing the MORMONS have had the same thought, too...only without the cynicism...:duh
Boy talk about great minds.... I was thinking the same thing too. Why don't they at least get one of them priesthood ordinances going in Iraq, and set up some guardian angels for our troops there?

I guess we can quit worrying about Kim Jong il and his nukes?

:Crazy:

Jeff_Ricks
8th November 2006, 06:01 PM
I know that this promise is true...As long as the saints in Korea attend the temple they are protected. I have been so blessed to not only witness the prophet of the Lord proclaim this great promise, but also have been here to see the fulfillment of those words.Of course if the North does end up attacking the South it won't mean that Hinckley's a false prophet, it will mean that not enough Mormons in Korea attended the temple. :rolleyes: :duh

Born Free
8th November 2006, 07:21 PM
One could only hope he is more accurate in this prophetic utterance to these peoples of South Asia than he was to Polynesian peoples in telling them they were descendants of the Israelites.

I wonder sometimes if these guys are in love with the awe their idiotic utterances have on those around them, with no thought to the problems created later when things go awry.

Is this a form of narcissism, or are they so up themselves (priesthood and all) that any lame-arsed idea they comes into their heads gets interpreted as Gard speaking to them?

Daryl

lynsie
8th November 2006, 07:57 PM
You notice the third time he made the promise he changed. You must attend the temple and appreciate it. COMPLETELY UNMEASURABLE! North Korea attacks...no problem...for church leaders at least. Obviously, the issue is church members not appreciating the ordinances enough, even if there is 100% attendance. GBH is slick as snot on a doorknob. The worst part is that there are many church members who would actually feel guilt about this. "Dang, my worldly thoughts in the Celestial room caused a nuclear conflict!!!" Grr... the whole thing gets me wound.
:lftl: :lftl: :lftl: :lftl:

noodle
8th November 2006, 08:35 PM
Something about this reminds me of a Paul Dunn-type-o'-story.

Hey, whatever happened to Paul Dunn? He really dropped off the face of the earth, didn't he? :D

mamajama

david
8th November 2006, 11:53 PM
"I am an intelligence professional."

Try again, buddy.:D

puff
9th November 2006, 02:58 AM
Of course if the North does end up attacking the South it won't mean that Hinckley's a false prophet, it will mean that not enough Mormons in Korea attended the temple. :rolleyes: :duhyes of course , because the church is true and if there a problem it can only be the fault of the members , not the leaders , who are perfect and inspired by god , like whe the temple in samoa burnt down , rumours spread that the local were being wicked

dogzilla
9th November 2006, 07:28 AM
"I am an intelligence professional."

Try again, buddy.:D

:D

That was great!

puff
12th November 2006, 04:23 AM
Puff, dude,

I had the EXACT same thought. I'm guessing the MORMONS have had the same thought, too...only without the cynicism...:duhI must confess , i find the whole idea of prophet kings from America going to the borders of the godless heathens and commanding the evil tide to be stopped quite inspiring .except are they really that different , life in north korea is probably similar to life in salt lake city for a believing mormon , lots of coersion , limited freedom , no democratic vote for leadership , say the wrong word and your under suspicion as an enemy , well you get the picture , perhaps even in north korea you don,t get forced to wear spooky underwear , there you get a choice , white nickers , pink nickers , black nickers , boxers or perhaps no nickers at all , even in such a god forsaken place as north korea , there are found to be greater freedoms than in mormon dum , so what are theses prophet kings doing , standing on the border waving their hands around in the air and binding the wicked with an air of authority , are they really trying to protect democracy , do they really think they are sustaning a better world , isn,t their mind boggling alteration of human history just as evil as anything north korea has done , at least with north korea we know we have a snake on our hands