I Am No Longer A Mormon...it's Official!

[silverfox]

Today is a day of celebration, everyone. I FINALLY got my letter from the suits stating I am no longer a member. ("it's about TIME" (no Mormon pun intended))

Now all we need is the party. Which I am going to plan. Soon. I will keep you posted.

Emotional wise - I felt sad in a way because so much of my life was invested into my membership. But knowing that stage of my life is officially OVER and the church no longer has any control over me, my status, etc, is very freeing. They can no longer USE me in even just their statistics. Well, they can but they would be LYING. (okay, what else is new, I know)

Silverfox the EX Mormon. :D

[peter_mary]

Today is a day of celebration, everyone. I FINALLY got my letter from the suits stating I am no longer a member.

Silverfox the EX Mormon. :D

Yay for you! Here, wait a sec while I struggle with this cork...damnit, why do they...grunt...have to put them...groan...in so tightly! POP!!

Oh! Rats, champagne all over the keyboard...not good.

Okay, here's some for you, and you, and you,...champagne all around! Congratulations on the completion of your exodus!

Paul

[silverfox]

Thanks Paul....mmmmm nothing like licking champagne off a keyboard.

Wish you lived in Utard (well, for your sake not really) so you could come to my party. You gonna be in Utard any time soon? I will plan it around then.

[silverfox]

Here is what the letter says if anyone is curious........

Dear Sister XXXXXX (sister????? okay just your one last way to have control, I understand)

This letter is to notify you that, inaccordance with your request, you are no longer a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Should you desire :Puking to become a member of the Church in the future, the local bishop or branch president in your area will be happy to help you.

Okay so I added the puking dude. But the rest is word for word.

[peter_mary]

Thanks Paul....mmmmm nothing like licking champagne off a keyboard.

Wish you lived in Utard (well, for your sake not really) so you could come to my party. You gonna be in Utard any time soon? I will plan it around then.

I'm actually going to be in Provo (AAAUUUGGGHHHH!!!!) this Saturday night, but tragically, it will probably be a family event (inlaws), and I doubt anyone will understand if I excuse myself to go to my friend's, "I'M OUT!!! I'M FINALLY FRIGGIN' OUT!!!" Party. Prudes...

You set the date, and if I can come, I will! I'll bring something sinful, like Devil's Food Cake! :)

Paul

[silverfox]

I can't help it.

Every one HAS to wear colored underwear. We will be checking at the door.

What else should be in our requirements?

[shamdiel]

Here is what the letter says if anyone is curious........

Dear Sister XXXXXX (sister????? okay just your one last way to have control, I understand)

This letter is to notify you that, inaccordance with your request, you are no longer a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Should you desire :Puking to become a member of the Church in the future, the local bishop or branch president in your area will be happy to help you.

Okay so I added the puking dude. But the rest is word for word.
What? Did they forget the part where you can continue to pay your tithing through a worthy member? Or has that part been changed since I left? Hard to keep up with all them there changes; especially when you have had a litlle hit on the bottle. Hey! but what a milestone huh? Congrats and best wishes and happy new year and all that stuff!!! :D
John

P.S. save a seat??? No! Bottle; well maybe just a spot for me at that party!!! :Crazy:

[shamdiel]

What else should be in our requirements?

How about a set of Devil horns?

[peter_mary]

Here is what the letter says if anyone is curious........




Should you desire to become a member of the Church in the future, the local bishop or branch president in your area will be happy to help you.

Okay so I added the puking dude. But the rest is word for word.

This is interesting. Subtlety at its finest. The inference here is that you have fallen, failed, stumbled, or are lost, and should you ever choose to humble yourself, there are people in high places who will be willing to stoop down and pick you back up.

Gagging...

Paul

[lsands]

I can't help it.

Every one HAS to wear colored underwear. We will be checking at the door.

What else should be in our requirements?

I only HAVE colored underwear! ;)

Congratulations, Silverfox. Let's party SOON (but not next weekend---I'll be out of town.) How about the next weekend---when all of the Mo's are attending General Conference?!

Laraine

[Born Free]

Today is a day of celebration, everyone. I FINALLY got my letter from the suits stating I am no longer a member. ("it's about TIME" (no Mormon pun intended))

Now all we need is the party. Which I am going to plan. Soon. I will keep you posted.

Emotional wise - I felt sad in a way because so much of my life was invested into my membership. But knowing that stage of my life is officially OVER and the church no longer has any control over me, my status, etc, is very freeing. They can no longer USE me in even just their statistics. Well, they can but they would be LYING. (okay, what else is new, I know)

Silverfox the EX Mormon. :D

A big congratulations!

EMS,

I connected this morning (here) just after you posted, so a pleasant start to the day for me, knowing how much it means to you.

How has hubby responded to your exuberance?

Oh, happy day! Wish I could be there when you crack the champers.

The next stage of life officially begins.

Daryl

[Jeff_Ricks]

I can't help it.

Every one HAS to wear colored underwear. We will be checking at the door.

What else should be in our requirements?

Special underwear eh? Do we need a party recommend and are there any secret handshakes I should brush up on??

CONGRATULATIONS by the way!!!! :D :D :D

Jeff

[darin]

Congratulations, Silverfox!!!

I have yet to send in my letter...

Till then, I'm settling for being disfellowshipped.

P.S.--I just started buying non-white undies a few months back--who knew color could be so much FUN?!

[noodle]

Party On, Silverfox!

mamajama

[free thinker]

Ya Girl !! You go!!! I am very happy for you!! :)

I bet it feels great ! I just may have to come to that party. If I do, I am gonna wear silk boxers! They are my favorite post-mo non-masonic underwear!! :D

When I come to the door I want you to say " What is wanted"? Then I will say " Free Thinker, having traveled some distance, and coming with a six pack of cold brew, wishes to enter Silverfox's comin out of moism suare". Then you will say " Let him enter" We can skip the five points of fellowship, cuz I dont wanna anger the spousal unit!! Perhaps we can just extend to each other the patriarchal grip!! :D

Way to go!!

Free Thinker

[Born Free]

I can't help it.

Every one HAS to wear colored underwear. We will be checking at the door.

What else should be in our requirements?

Should I bring the Iron Rod???

[silverfox]

What? Did they forget the part where you can continue to pay your tithing through a worthy member? Or has that part been changed since I left? Hard to keep up with all them there changes; especially when you have had a litlle hit on the bottle. Hey! but what a milestone huh? Congrats and best wishes and happy new year and all that stuff!!! :D
John

P.S. save a seat??? No! Bottle; well maybe just a spot for me at that party!!! :Crazy:

I think they are getting so many requests for name removal that they decided to skip all the mumbo jumbo.

[silverfox]

Should I bring the Iron Rod???

I am sure we could think of some freaky unholy evil things to do with that iron rod.

Shoot, now I've got that song in my head again....."take this rod and shove it, I ain't comin' here no more"

I really really really really really wish you could party with us!!!!! Do you have a web cam? Maybe we can do a web cam party. heh heh

[silverfox]

I'm actually going to be in Provo (AAAUUUGGGHHHH!!!!) this Saturday night, but tragically, it will probably be a family event (inlaws), and I doubt anyone will understand if I excuse myself to go to my friend's, "I'M OUT!!! I'M FINALLY FRIGGIN' OUT!!!" Party. Prudes...

You set the date, and if I can come, I will! I'll bring something sinful, like Devil's Food Cake! :)

Paul

PROVO?????????? I haven't been there for YEARS. It is against my newfound religion. I feel for you. You will be in my thoughts.

Let's all send positive energy Paul's way. Paul, I am sure there are lots of members and lurkers who live there...you will feel there energy.

[Born Free]

I am sure we could think of some freaky unholy evil things to do with that iron rod.

Shoot, now I've got that song in my head again....."take this rod and shove it, I ain't comin' here no more"

I really really really really really wish you could party with us!!!!! Do you have a web cam? Maybe we can do a web cam party. heh heh

Just let me know the time and I'll cam aboard.

Not too sure I will have too much champers at midday though!

Daryl

[silverfox]

I only HAVE colored underwear! ;)

Congratulations, Silverfox. Let's party SOON (but not next weekend---I'll be out of town.) How about the next weekend---when all of the Mo's are attending General Conference?!

Laraine

That's a good idea...how fitting! I am waiting to see what the weather does. I'd like to hold it in a central location so no one has to drive very far.

[silverfox]

A big congratulations!

EMS,

I connected this morning (here) just after you posted, so a pleasant start to the day for me, knowing how much it means to you.

How has hubby responded to your exuberance?

Daryl

Hubby knows I've been (im)patiently waiting for this. I believe he has mixed feelings. One one hand he is becoming more and more comfy with things. On the other he can't explain where all his testimonies came from. How can they not be true when he felt so strongly that they were? How can it all be a lie, etc? He's at THAT stage.

He brought in the mail. There was a package for me and a letter. He held them up - which one do you want. Well I knew the package was most likely my new J Geils CD I had ordered so yeah I got excited over that. And then I thought well, an envelope, huh? Why would hubby be excited about giving me an envelope. Must not be a bill. Hmmmmm could it be a check? Taht would be nice. But I don't usually get checks in the mail. Not since I stopped doing Ebay on the side. No, wait-maybe a letter from a long lost friend? Or relative? Hmmmmmm. Then it hit me - IT'S BETTER THAN ALL THAT...IT'S THE LETTER!!!! Read it, read it!!!!, he said. He was excited, too, I think because he knows how important it is to me. He told me I should frame it due to what it has cost me emotionally. I think that's a good sign. But I still am reluctant to get too comfy cuz I know hubby can still go either way.

I think he is observing me, taking it all in and digesting it all. Life as a post mo. I did ask him how it felt to now be married to a non member. He asked if it meant more sex. I told him only if he could handle it. ;)

So that was the experience between hubby and wife regarding my letter. Much more pleasant than I anticipated. I am not sure he will want to attend the party, though, only because he is not very trusting of "strangers". He will be leary and cautious of the lot of you. All you ex mo's congregatin' - not sure he is ready for that. I took him to a couple ex mo gatherings last year and it was hard for him. But that's okay. It's like me hanging out with him and all his cop buddies talkin' business.

[silverfox]

Just let me know the time and I'll cam aboard.

Not too sure I will have too much champers at midday though!

Daryl

Midday, huh? What is the time difference between there and Utard?

[Born Free]

Midday, huh? What is the time difference between there and Utard?

3.40pm here Friday is 10.40pm Thursday night there as I write.

[silverfox]

3.40pm here Friday is 10.40pm Thursday night there as I write.

Oh so while I looking out into the cold icky darkness you are bathing in warm relaxing sunshine.

You know what would be fun - getting as many of us together as possible and web caming with sturg. I personally don't have a web cam but have been thinking about getting one.

We could do it at 10:00 at night during one of our future get togethers. We can watch you bathe in the sun and play with the kangaroos and koala bears. heh heh

I mean, if sturg was interested, of course. :)

[outsideriq]

Today is a day of celebration, everyone. I FINALLY got my letter from the suits stating I am no longer a member. ("it's about TIME" (no Mormon pun intended))

Now all we need is the party. Which I am going to plan. Soon. I will keep you posted.

Emotional wise - I felt sad in a way because so much of my life was invested into my membership. But knowing that stage of my life is officially OVER and the church no longer has any control over me, my status, etc, is very freeing. They can no longer USE me in even just their statistics. Well, they can but they would be LYING. (okay, what else is new, I know)

Silverfox the EX Mormon. :D

That's call for celebration! Welcome to your new and improved membership....to the real world ! :) You all are soooo great and supportive of one another, it's wonderful! Congratulations, again!!! :cool:

[silverfox]

I was just thinking how wonderful it is to be able to share the news here and have such exciting positive responses.

In "real life" I have no one who will be excited about the news. I mean, hubby was supportive but not really excited on a personal basis.

So thank you all for your support and for sharing in my excitement. You are GREAT!!!!!!!!

[Born Free]

Oh so while I looking out into the cold icky darkness you are bathing in warm relaxing sunshine.

You know what would be fun - getting as many of us together as possible and web caming with sturg. I personally don't have a web cam but have been thinking about getting one.

We could do it at 10:00 at night during one of our future get togethers. We can watch you bathe in the sun and play with the kangaroos and koala bears. heh heh

I mean, if sturg was interested, of course. :)


Remember back to one of our earliest conversations!!! :)

[silverfox]

Remember back to one of our earliest conversations!!! :)

Yeah, but we're not cute little kids doing silly things.

Oh, wait. We may not be cute little kids BUT I am sure we can think of some silly things to do to entertain you.

:D

[Born Free]

Yeah, but we're not cute little kids doing silly things.

Oh, wait. We may not be cute little kids BUT I am sure we can think of some silly things to do to entertain you.

:D

You had heard of Australians answering the door to missionaries naked.

Remember?

[silverfox]

You had heard of Australians answering the door to missionaries naked.

Remember?

Oh THAT conversation. I was going to refer to that in my post about you sunbathing. So it will be US getting the entertainment - aaaaahaaaaaa!!!!!

I am sure there will be a big crowd around the web cam for that one!

LOL I am giggling out loud now!

[Born Free]

Oh THAT conversation. I was going to refer to that in my post about you sunbathing. So it will be US getting the entertainment - aaaaahaaaaaa!!!!!

I am sure there will be a big crowd around the web cam for that one!

LOL I am giggling out loud now!

Look at the ratio of responses/viewing on this thread! I am writing this at 8:45pm (Oz time) and they are over 2/10, which is way above the usualy 1/10 indicator of solid interest/engagement.

Ever get the impression the odd person or two might be happy for you??

Daryl

[bigeddy]

Silverfox,
Now that Daryl has mentioned the odd person, I thought I would write my congrats. I would be interested to party hardy with the post-mos. In fact, one line in one of your posts caused pictures in my head. It was
"All you ex mo's congregatin' "

While that may be a bit frightening to the hubby it creates an interesting image in my head of all the possibilities. So, let me know the when and the where.

Ed

[Jeff_Ricks]

Special underwear eh? Do we need a party recommend and are there any secret handshakes I should brush up on??

CONGRATULATIONS by the way!!!! :D :D :D

Jeff

By the way, I want to try to make it to the party too, so just say where and when!

Jeff

[silverfox]

I anticipate the party will be at least a month out but I will post a thread regarding it.

I like to keep these types of gatherings pretty "secretive". (to keep within our party theme, it's so fitting) I don't like to publicly post the details. When the time comes, I will post a thread to see what dates are good for everyone. Then members can PM me for details.

This just helps maintain as much anonymity as possible. Am I paranoid? I imagine little church spies hiding in the bushes with their cameras taking pix of all attendees and their license plate numbers. I am only half kidding but you just never know about some fanatics who take our intent personal. (maybe I watch too many spy movies,heh heh) I do like to take every precaution to protect members, though.

[silverfox]

Silverfox,
Now that Daryl has mentioned the odd person, I thought I would write my congrats. I would be interested to party hardy with the post-mos. In fact, one line in one of your posts caused pictures in my head. It was
"All you ex mo's congregatin' "

While that may be a bit frightening to the hubby it creates an interesting image in my head of all the possibilities. So, let me know the when and the where.

Ed

I think what frightens hubby most is when I pop off with these ideas......"yeah, we are all gonna wear colored underwear and use our new names (user names) and secret hand gestures. Oh and then we can bring our old garmies and build a bonfire and roast marshmallows over them."

[noodle]

ooooooo....post-Mos AND J Geils Band?! Sounds like fun in the making!

[shamdiel]

I think what frightens hubby most is when I pop off with these ideas......"yeah, we are all gonna wear colored underwear and use our new names (user names) and secret hand gestures. Oh and then we can bring our old garmies and build a bonfire and roast marshmallows over them."

Damn! I already burned mine. Maybe I have to bring my Quad an burn that! OOHH! Burning books. That should cause a good rumor. :p
I don't know about marsmellows over a garmie fire! You know where those have been??!! :eek:
John

[enlightendmolly]

I wish I would have reading the forum while this thread was active. Congratulations Silver Fox. As I have recently sent in my letter, I am curious to know how long it took you to get you official out letter. Since I missed your party, I will just have to have my own, (and of course invite all of you!) :)

[formermormon]

OK, so I guess my entry is late as well. Darn! Has the party already occured?

And Silverfox, your letter was different from mine. Mine mentioned something about taking my blessings away - something about no longer having the "blessings of my baptism" or whatever. One last guilty dig. I thought about framing it because it was just so childish. It sounds like yours was more simple and to the point.

Again, way to go!

[silverfox]

I wish I would have reading the forum while this thread was active. Congratulations Silver Fox. As I have recently sent in my letter, I am curious to know how long it took you to get you official out letter. Since I missed your party, I will just have to have my own, (and of course invite all of you!) :)

Thanks! You haven't missed the party because is hasn't happened yet. I think it would be good to merge it with a big ol' Post Mo get together. Just waiting for the weather to co-operate and then I will start throwing some ideas out there. Stay tuned!!!!

I sent in my letter on Dec 14th. (I actually sent on in about a month prior but it got "lost") I received my official "out" letter mid March. It is supposed to only take about a month from what I hear.

I had to call the church office building a couple times to get them "on it". I feel what they (either the church or the local leaders) really do is sit on it and hope you don't notice. I really feel like they want to retain your membership as long as possible.

In my case I received a letter shortly after from them stating that they had received it and would send a copy to my bishop.

I didn't hear anything for almost 6 weeks so I called COB. They stated the bishop was sitting on it and that they would contact him and get it rolling.

I received a letter from my bish a few weeks later stating that they would process it and I had 30 days to change my mind.

Finally 3 months later I got my official out letter.

It shouldn't be so complicated. Let us know how yours goes....we can celebrate together!

[enlightendmolly]

I received a letter from my bish a few weeks later stating that they would process it and I had 30 days to change my mind.

Finally 3 months later I got my official out letter.

It shouldn't be so complicated. Let us know how yours goes....we can celebrate together!


I wonder if I should just call my Bish Directly since I CC'd the letter to him, and just get him started on it. I didn't read your letter, but here is what mine said:

April 4, 2005

To Whom It May Concern:
We are writing this letter to notify you that our family has formally resigned our membership from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, effective immediately, and to request that you remove our names from the church’s membership records to reflect this fact.

We have given this decision a lot of thought and study, and fully understand the consequences of our request. We know that our baptisms and temple work will be cancelled, and that Mortvola's Priesthood will be withdrawn. In addition, we realize that all other blessings, ordinances and covenants made during our membership will no longer be binding. We also know that – according to LDS theology – we are jeopardizing our very salvation and exaltation and that readmission into the church requires rebaptism after an extensive interview process. Just the same, our decision is final. We haven’t considered ourselves Mormons for quite a while and feel it is dishonest to be counted as such.

We are leaving because we no longer believe in the church doctrines, scriptures, or deception of its history, nor can we support its leaders (past or present). We have joined another church where we have been quite involved for some time and by whose principles and teachings we are raising our children.

Our Mormon neighbors are always welcome in our home as friends. Our issues with the church have nothing to do with its members. With this in mind, we will no longer accept official church contacts such as home teachers, visiting teachers, missionaries, newsletters, solicitations for donations, etc., and do not want to be listed on the ward rolls and directories. We have moved on to something that is better for us.

We will not participate in a church court and expect that “excommunication” and other such derogatory terms will not be used in any correspondence regarding our departure, as this decision is entirely our own and is based on disbelief and an exercise of our rights to freedom of religion and free association and not because of excommunicable offenses. We also consider this a confidential matter only to be discussed with those few members who will be involved in removing our names from the membership records or who otherwise need to know in order to carry out their church duties. Our family and friends should learn about our departure from us and not from gossip.

The following is the information required in order to identify our records:
Name Gender Birth
Mortvola M 1964
Enlightenedmolly F 1965
Child 1 F 1990
Child 2 F 1992
Child 3 M 1994

We ask that our request be processed immediately, waiving any and all proposed waiting periods since we have carefully considered this decision for some time now and are not going to change our minds. As stated before, we wish no further official contact with the church, including a visit from our bishop.

Thank you for your prompt attention to our request.





Mortvola Enlightened Molly
CC: xxxx xxxxxx, Bishop, Pleasant Grove xth Ward

[silverfox]

I wonder if I should just call my Bish Directly since I CC'd the letter to him, and just get him started on it. I didn't read your letter, but here is what mine said:

April 4, 2005

To Whom It May Concern:
We are writing this letter to notify you that our family has formally resigned our membership from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, effective immediately, and to request that you remove our names from the church’s membership records to reflect this fact.

We have given this decision a lot of thought and study, and fully understand the consequences of our request. We know that our baptisms and temple work will be cancelled, and that Mortvola's Priesthood will be withdrawn. In addition, we realize that all other blessings, ordinances and covenants made during our membership will no longer be binding. We also know that – according to LDS theology – we are jeopardizing our very salvation and exaltation and that readmission into the church requires rebaptism after an extensive interview process. Just the same, our decision is final. We haven’t considered ourselves Mormons for quite a while and feel it is dishonest to be counted as such.

We are leaving because we no longer believe in the church doctrines, scriptures, or deception of its history, nor can we support its leaders (past or present). We have joined another church where we have been quite involved for some time and by whose principles and teachings we are raising our children.

Our Mormon neighbors are always welcome in our home as friends. Our issues with the church have nothing to do with its members. With this in mind, we will no longer accept official church contacts such as home teachers, visiting teachers, missionaries, newsletters, solicitations for donations, etc., and do not want to be listed on the ward rolls and directories. We have moved on to something that is better for us.

We will not participate in a church court and expect that “excommunication” and other such derogatory terms will not be used in any correspondence regarding our departure, as this decision is entirely our own and is based on disbelief and an exercise of our rights to freedom of religion and free association and not because of excommunicable offenses. We also consider this a confidential matter only to be discussed with those few members who will be involved in removing our names from the membership records or who otherwise need to know in order to carry out their church duties. Our family and friends should learn about our departure from us and not from gossip.

The following is the information required in order to identify our records:
Name Gender Birth
Mortvola M 1964
Enlightenedmolly F 1965
Child 1 F 1990
Child 2 F 1992
Child 3 M 1994

We ask that our request be processed immediately, waiving any and all proposed waiting periods since we have carefully considered this decision for some time now and are not going to change our minds. As stated before, we wish no further official contact with the church, including a visit from our bishop.

Thank you for your prompt attention to our request.





Mortvola Enlightened Molly
CC: xxxx xxxxxx, Bishop, Pleasant Grove xth Ward

The bish should have responded to you by now to at least acknowledge that he received it and will process it. It is up to him now to keep it rolling. You can call the COB and let them deal with the bish. I didn't want to deal with my bish at all.

Good letter, btw.