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SoUtSkeptic
4th April 2005, 10:56 PM
Fox News Utah this evening interviewed former Colorado City resident and author Ben Bistline. Indicates Colorado City Area residents are leaving their homes and heading to Texas to join Prophet Rulon Jeffs. There is a concern there may be another Waco. Jeffs is rushing completion of his temple and predicting the end of the world April 6th.
see http://childbrides.org/news.html

Will be fun to watch the cog dis set in.

SoUtSkeptic

silverfox
4th April 2005, 10:57 PM
Fox News Utah this evening interviewed former Colorado City resident and author Ben Bistline. Indicates Colorado City Area residents are leaving their homes and heading to Texas to join Prophet Rulon Jeffs. There is a concern there may be another Waco. Jeffs is rushing completion of his temple and predicting the end of the world April 6th.
see http://childbrides.org/news.html

Will be fun to watch the cog dis set in.

SoUtSkeptic

That's just......freaky. Yikes.

free thinker
4th April 2005, 11:02 PM
Fox News Utah this evening interviewed former Colorado City resident and author Ben Bistline. Indicates Colorado City Area residents are leaving their homes and heading to Texas to join Prophet Rulon Jeffs. There is a concern there may be another Waco. Jeffs is rushing completion of his temple and predicting the end of the world April 6th.
see http://childbrides.org/news.html

April 6th?

Dang, I had so much I wanted to do!! :(

Free Thinker

SoUtSkeptic
4th April 2005, 11:07 PM
That's just......freaky. Yikes.

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At our Feb. Post Mo meeting, several apostates from Colorado spoke about receiving their get out of Dodge letters. No reason is given. The FLDS Church owns the property your home is on. If they do not like you they tell you to just leave. Due to a 50/50 male/female birth rate there is a problem with not enough girls to go around. So the parents are instructed to take their teenage boy out back, give them $100 and advise them they are on their own.

Great place to live.

SoUTSkeptic

Born Free
4th April 2005, 11:22 PM
Fox News Utah this evening interviewed former Colorado City resident and author Ben Bistline. Indicates Colorado City Area residents are leaving their homes and heading to Texas to join Prophet Rulon Jeffs. There is a concern there may be another Waco. Jeffs is rushing completion of his temple and predicting the end of the world April 6th.
see http://childbrides.org/news.html

Will be fun to watch the cog dis set in.

SoUtSkeptic

So let me get a grip on this.

Will Time end 6th April your time, so I get part way through 7th in Oz, or will time end like a wave around the planet, starting in the mid Pacific, wiping NZ and Oz out first and then making its way progressively to you?

I'll try and post a message to keep you up with the latest, provided the comms cables across the Pacific don't go out too. (Hopefully the internet will reroute the traffic via Europe before they go off the air).

Hey! Been nice paving our way to Hell whilst I have known you'all.

Daryl (Soon to be done crispy)

PS: Hey I just figured what did it! It's Silverfox and all the kinky, irreverent things she was going to do at her Comin' Out Party, that has brought on the 2nd Coming.

free thinker
4th April 2005, 11:26 PM
At our Feb. Post Mo meeting, several apostates from Colorado spoke about receiving their get out of Dodge letters. No reason is given. The FLDS Church owns the property your home is on. If they do not like you they tell you to just leave. Due to a 50/50 male/female birth rate there is a problem with not enough girls to go around. So the parents are instructed to take their teenage boy out back, give them $100 and advise them they are on their own.

Joseph Smith wouldn't even have given them $100. He would just have taken their girl and told them it was god's will. At least they get to pass go and collect $100!!

Free Thinker

silverfox
5th April 2005, 09:22 AM
So let me get a grip on this.

PS: Hey I just figured what did it! It's Silverfox and all the kinky, irreverent things she was going to do at her Comin' Out Party, that has brought on the 2nd Coming.

LOL - I better hurry and have that party NOW, huh????

silverfox
5th April 2005, 09:26 AM
Fox News Utah this evening interviewed former Colorado City resident and author Ben Bistline. Indicates Colorado City Area residents are leaving their homes and heading to Texas to join Prophet Rulon Jeffs. There is a concern there may be another Waco. Jeffs is rushing completion of his temple and predicting the end of the world April 6th.
see http://childbrides.org/news.html

Will be fun to watch the cog dis set in.

SoUtSkeptic

As a TBM I often imagined about the day Latter Day Saints would get this message from the "profit". My family and I used to discuss it often...how to prepare, etc. How we were going to trek to Missouri without cars or anything.

Remember the gas shortage in the 70s? I do. It was right after I joined the church. Every one thought it was nearing the end back then. And we discussed how we would get to Missouri....how to prepare.

Boy oh boy :duh

elder_nomo
5th April 2005, 01:17 PM
As a TBM I often imagined about the day Latter Day Saints would get this message from the "profit". My family and I used to discuss it often...how to prepare, etc. How we were going to trek to Missouri without cars or anything.
i also remember discussing, as a TBM, the polygamous "splinter" groups and how awful they were. but now in the light of day, i think that they actually *are* closer to the original joe smith teachings and doctrines. TBMs look at these groups and tut-tut and shake their heads. yet they are looking at the living incarnation of their own history.

silverfox
5th April 2005, 01:31 PM
i also remember discussing, as a TBM, the polygamous "splinter" groups and how awful they were. but now in the light of day, i think that they actually *are* closer to the original joe smith teachings and doctrines. TBMs look at these groups and tut-tut and shake their heads. yet they are looking at the living incarnation of their own history.

And also their future from what members are taught. Polygamy, etc.

flotsam
5th April 2005, 01:42 PM
Actually, I'm quite enamored of polygamists. I think they are absolutely fascinating. This bothered my wife during our TBM days. She wasn't sure if I was doing all this research so I could join up or what.

No, I think I was doing this research because polygamists remind me of me. I have this great desire to be caught up in something that is absolutely God-directed. Something that makes my every move eternally significant. And it seems to me that polygamists have that in a lot of ways. They have the vision to go against the grain of our society, much to their financial and social detriment. But they believe what they are doing is right.

Of course they story is much more complex than that. I read a really fab book called "Women of Principle," by Janet Bennion. She lived in polygamist towns as an anthropologist and put this book together from her experiences. From her observations, the life of a female in polygamy is a multi-faceted thing. And in some ways, she argues, polygamy can be quite empowering for a woman with a Mormon background.

For example, you can literally marry your way into heaven. You can "marry upward," divorce your current slouch of a husband and take up residence with the prophet if you wish. You may be wife #34, but you're going to heaven, and you also now have high social standing. Sure, you have to take care of your kids all by yourself, but what's the difference between that and single parenthood? Well, people actually respect you, for one thing.

Fascinating, book. I'd highly recommend it for all polygphobic people looking to free their minds.
;)

free thinker
5th April 2005, 11:49 PM
For example, you can literally marry your way into heaven. You can "marry upward," divorce your current slouch of a husband and take up residence with the prophet if you wish. You may be wife #34, but you're going to heaven, and you also now have high social standing. Sure, you have to take care of your kids all by yourself, but what's the difference between that and single parenthood? Well, people actually respect you, for one thing.


Flotsam

Only problem with the above for a woman, is the fact that although you may get to heaven, you will have to spend the remaining time on earth, making love from time to time, with a beer bellied man that has yesterdays ministrone soup in his beard !! :Puking I think hell might be better!! :o

Free Thinker

taegan
6th April 2005, 05:48 AM
As a TBM I often imagined about the day Latter Day Saints would get this message from the "profit". My family and I used to discuss it often...how to prepare, etc. How we were going to trek to Missouri without cars or anything.

Remember the gas shortage in the 70s? I do. It was right after I joined the church. Every one thought it was nearing the end back then. And we discussed how we would get to Missouri....how to prepare.

Boy oh boy :duh

Remember when the L.A riots broke out? I remember sitting in the living watching TV with the family and my mom saying that "Well, I guess this is the start of the 2nd comming." The grocery stores sold out of practically everything non-perishable because people where stocking up for the end of the world (we lived in a big LDS community). What weirdos.

Quite honestly, I'd be just fine if my DH had a few other wives. Hell, thats more people to clean my house and sleep with him.. hahaha! Although why any man would want more then one wife is mind boggling to me. Imagine having 5 women nagging you to take out the trash, fix the sink, show me more affection in public, ect ect.. lol

silverfox
6th April 2005, 08:10 AM
For example, you can literally marry your way into heaven. You can "marry upward," divorce your current slouch of a husband and take up residence with the prophet if you wish. You may be wife #34, but you're going to heaven, and you also now have high social standing. Sure, you have to take care of your kids all by yourself, but what's the difference between that and single parenthood? Well, people actually respect you, for one thing.


Flotsam

Only problem with the above for a woman, is the fact that although you may get to heaven, you will have to spend the remaining time on earth, making love from time to time, with a beer bellied man that has yesterdays ministrone soup in his beard !! :Puking I think hell might be better!! :o

Free Thinker

LOL!!!

Hey, anyone can marry their way in or out of anything. That's why there is a LEGAL way to do it.....marry, divorce, marry, divorce.

I've read some horror stories written by girls who were able to escape. *shudder* It's one thing if an adult woman choses that lifestyle but another when they bear children and force them into it, allowing marriage in their teens, etc. Who can respect THAT?

Sickening.

pokatator
6th April 2005, 06:02 PM
Jeffs is rushing completion of his temple and predicting the end of the world April 6th


Today is the day, I'm waiting.....tick.....tick...tick....

Born Free
6th April 2005, 07:36 PM
Today is the day, I'm waiting.....tick.....tick...tick....

Well the sun rose and set on an Oz 6th just fine. We are approaching noon of the 7th here, and JC has not returned, but them again we are not Jerasulem or the New J. MInd you it is a nice autumn day, not too hot, not yet cool. Probably a good day for a picnic.

How unusual! A messianic apocriphal alarmist got it wrong. Time to develop mass amnesia, until next time. :rolleyes:

Daryl

jayneedoe
7th April 2005, 06:51 AM
. . . to join Prophet Rulon Jeffs.

Just a minor correction. It's Warren Jeffs to whom they are now flocking. Warren took over when his father, Rulon, died.

Jaynee

jayneedoe
7th April 2005, 07:02 AM
I have this great desire to be caught up in something that is absolutely God-directed. Something that makes my every move eternally significant. And it seems to me that polygamists have that in a lot of ways. They have the vision to go against the grain of our society, much to their financial and social detriment. But they believe what they are doing is right.

I am fascinated and awe-struck by our Utah pioneers who practiced polygamy. I often argue with my TBM family that the Church greatly insults its ancestors with its current attempts to distance itself from its legacy of polygamy.

I've read numerous journals and all the scholarly histories I'm aware of, and I always come away moved by the incredible commitments and sacrifices these people made because of their adamant belief that polygamy was commanded of God.

Of course I also think it was incredibly stupid.

But my point is that the Church demeans these people's commitments and sacrifices by insisting it has "nothing whatever" to do with polygamy today. This is a lie, as polygamy is still part of its canon, is still practiced via the temple ceremony and, to a believing Mormon, will be for the eternities.

I would think the Church would want to use these pioneers' polygamy as examples of their incredible faith.

Instead, it lies.

Jaynee

silverfox
7th April 2005, 09:00 AM
I am fascinated and awe-struck by our Utah pioneers who practiced polygamy. I often argue with my TBM family that the Church greatly insults its ancestors with its current attempts to distance itself from its legacy of polygamy.

I've read numerous journals and all the scholarly histories I'm aware of, and I always come away moved by the incredible commitments and sacrifices these people made because of their adamant belief that polygamy was commanded of God.

Of course I also think it was incredibly stupid.

But my point is that the Church demeans these people's commitments and sacrifices by insisting it has "nothing whatever" to do with polygamy today. This is a lie, as polygamy is still part of its canon, is still practiced via the temple ceremony and, to a believing Mormon, will be for the eternities.

I would think the Church would want to use these pioneers' polygamy as examples of their incredible faith.

Instead, it lies.

Jaynee

Good point. I never thought of it as "still being practiced" via the temple ceremonies but you are absolutely correct. So when someone says the Mormons still practice polygamy they are correct. Maybe that's why so many non members believe this. I never thought of it that way. Interesting.

elder_nomo
7th April 2005, 11:15 AM
Good point. I never thought of it as "still being practiced" via the temple ceremonies but you are absolutely correct. So when someone says the Mormons still practice polygamy they are correct.
that was the problem with polygamy for me. not that it was ever practiced [altho that was a pretty hard pill to swallow], but that they try so hard to cover it up. past polygamy is minimized and brushed aside. and the fact that it is still an active doctrine and in practice is kept very quiet.
that's one of those mo things that just makes me crazy. i mean, if it's true and it's from god, why do you have to hide it?

silverfox
7th April 2005, 11:37 AM
I'm really disappointed the end didn't happen.

I was looking forward to meeting you all in hell. sniff sniff :D

free thinker
8th April 2005, 01:50 PM
I'm really disappointed the end didn't happen.

I was looking forward to meeting you all in hell. sniff sniff


Ya no kidding Silverfox! I went and got marshmallows to roast, and a really cool devil outfit at the constume shop. Complete with horns and fully operational pitchfork!!

Oh well! Guess hell can wait!!

Free Thinker
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silverfox
8th April 2005, 02:16 PM
I'm really disappointed the end didn't happen.

I was looking forward to meeting you all in hell. sniff sniff


Ya no kidding Silverfox! I went and got marshmallows to roast, and a really cool devil outfit at the constume shop. Complete with horns and fully operational pitchfork!!

Oh well! Guess hell can wait!!

Free Thinker
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Well, you best not be letting that costume and marshmallows go to waste. I say we can create our own little hell right here within this community.

I'll bring the Hershey bars!

free thinker
9th April 2005, 10:40 AM
Well, you best not be letting that costume and marshmallows go to waste. I say we can create our own little hell right here within this community.

I'll bring the Hershey bars!
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Sounds good to me! But only under one condition! I get to be satan sometimes.

Ok everyone I'm satan today. My first order is that all the women have to take off their tops!! :D Just havin a little fun!!!

Free Thinker