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noodle
31st May 2005, 10:45 PM
Just curious as to what types of music Post-Mos listen to. Do you find certain music/lyrics prophetic? Since I turned the big 5-0 last year, I'm clearly a child of ... the 60s and 70s (and you thought I was gonna say "of God" :p ). Anyhoo, one of my all time favorites - and I think quite prophetic - is The End by The Beatles.
And in the end the love you take
Is equal to the love you make
And on the more humorous side:
Look
I understand too little too late
I realize there are things you say and do
You can never take back
But what would you be if you didn't even try
You have to try
So after a lot of thought
I'd like to reconsider
Please
If it's not too late
Make it a .... cheeseburger
~ Lyle Lovett
free thinker
1st June 2005, 12:21 AM
In my car CD player I have two disk's right now.
One is Sublime "40oz to freedom"
The other is a
The Doors " Compilation of greatest hits"
Guess I have my feet in the 20th and 21st century!!
Free Thinker
taegan
1st June 2005, 01:44 AM
I wouldnt say that my taste has changed, but I no longer feel guilty when listening to artists like 50 Cent and Metallica. My parents would FLIP when I'd put on Metallica. They said it was like listening to the devil himself preach, haha. When I went to visit them, I drove us to Denny's for breakfast and on the way there I had Metallica playing in my CD player. My car = my music. My mom was so flustered! Mean I know, but ahh well. :D
miss taken
1st June 2005, 03:40 AM
Hi Mamajama,
My taste has always been very diverse
10cc, air supply, some opera (i pagliacci), madam butterfly, Vivaldi, Scarlatti, Mozart, Handel, Beethoven, Tchaikovskis' 1812 Overture, Cold Play (love em), The Beatles, Sting, Simon and Garfunkel, Led Zeppelin's Stairway to Heaven, Ripples, Yes, Topographical Oceans,
Hocus Pocus, UB40, Elton John (the early stuff), the list goes on.......
silverfox
1st June 2005, 07:55 AM
I like all kinds of music and always have. Nothing has really changed except......
I get to spend what would have been tithing money on useless evil things like CDs and concert tickets.
Just bought Green Day tickets....I'm stoked! Can't wait!
why me
1st June 2005, 08:22 AM
I am definitely not a head banger :slap: . Nor am I into heavy metal :Crazy: . I am a soft-music kinda guy. I liked Neil Diamond and John Denver when I was younger. I also enjoyed Simon and Garfunkel and mellow love songs. And now I am definitely into country music. I love the words and the moods of country music. The music is so real to life that I can find some affinity in some of the words....I especially like Reba McEntire's recent song 'He gets that from you'. Country music rocks!!! :)
peter_mary
1st June 2005, 08:52 AM
I actually prefer quiet to music most of the time...I find that I'm able to be more comfortable with my inner world when I'm not distracted unecessarily from without.
However, when I do put in a tune or two, here's where I tend to land:
I love Paul Simon. Practically anything he's ever done ranks up there with scripture for me.
I love ethnic music, especially native rythyms from North and South America, and ESPECIALLY when fused with some contemporary instrumentation (Sacred Spirits, Cuzco, that sort of thing).
I played Bluegrass when I was in High School, and still have a very special fondness for that genre (I play guitar and mandolin).
One of my personal anthems is a song by the Travelling Willburys (Tom Petty, Roy Orbison, George Harrison, Bob Dylan, and Jeff Lynn):
END OF THE LINE
Well it's all right, riding around in the breeze
Well it's all right, if you live the life you please
Well it's all right, doing the best you can
Well it's all right, as long as you lend a hand
You can sit around and wait for the phone to ring
Waiting for someone to tell you everything
Sit around and wonder what tomorrow will bring
Maybe a diamond ring
Well it's all right, even if they say you're wrong
Well it's all right, sometimes you gotta be strong
Well it's all right, As long as you got somewhere to lay
Well it's all right, everyday is just one day
Maybe somewhere down the road aways
You'll think of me, wonder where I am these days
Maybe somewhere down the road when somebody plays
Purple haze
Well it's all right, even when push comes to shove
Well it's all right, if you got someone to love
Well it's all right, everything'll work out fine
Well it's all right, we're going to the end of the line
Don't have to be ashamed of the car I drive
I'm glad to be here, happy to be alive
It don't matter if you're by my side
I'm satisfied
Well it's all right, even if you're old and grey
Well it's all right, you still got something to say
Well it's all right, remember to live and let live
Well it's all right, the best you can do is forgive
Well it's all right, riding around in the breeze
Well it's all right, if you live the life you please
Well it's all right, even if the sun don't shine
Well it's all right, we're going to the end of the line
Peter_Mary
dogzilla
1st June 2005, 10:29 AM
I guess I'll chime in as our token "post-alternapunk." I just blew off the Nine Inch Nails concert to go to a plant swap, which is merely a sign of old age (that I chose the plant swap over the NIN show -- I'd seen NIN before, so there). I subscribe to the point of view that, "if it's too loud, you're too old." :p
My current favorite bands/artists include, but are not limited to:
Radiohead
Tool
A Perfect Circle (my idea of "mellow")
Incubus
The White Stripes
Chevelle
Saliva
NIN (Nine Inch Nails to the uninitiated)
The Chemical Brothers
Moby
Jane's Addiction
And much, much more
I love almost all blues, old classic rock is okay and I love techno/rave/ambient. I love opera and some classical, mostly Mozart. The only things I'm allergic to are country and bluegrass. I used to be awakened for seminary at 5:00 a.m. by my father putting on a bluegrass album at volume=11 (Spinal Tap reference) and pointing the speakers up the stairs toward my room. My hatred for bluegrass is the result of this trauma. (Note to Dads everywhere: not a nice thing to do to your teenager.)
Recently, I've decided that I've seen so many metal shows that it's becoming obvious that I've damaged my hearing. Certain voices in a certain ranges, coupled with busy ambient noise: I cannot hear you anymore. Can't distinguish between background noise (especially if a lot of people are talking at once) and some male voices, especially quiet talkers. I decided a couple years ago that, if I'm going to see shows like Tool or NIN, then I need to start wearing earplugs to preserve what little hearing I have left, a la Pete Townsend.
Funny story: I just got back from vacation at the beach. Took both dogs and the cat with me to the beach house I rented. Cat does not usually go on vacation, so he was a little freaked in the car. I discovered this amusing little fact: my cat is a metalhead. The harder and more industrial and angsty rock and roll it was, the quieter the cat was. Put on some pretty melodic ballad: cat hollered and meowed like his tail was stuck in the car door. Put on music that makes dogzilla go slowly deaf: cat quiet as a church mouse.
Who knew? My cat is a punk! LOL All he needs is a leather jacket and some Doc Martens thug boots.
peter_mary
1st June 2005, 10:53 AM
Recently, I've decided that I've seen so many metal shows that it's becoming obvious that I've damaged my hearing. Certain voices in a certain ranges, coupled with busy ambient noise: I cannot hear you anymore. Can't distinguish between background noise (especially if a lot of people are talking at once) and some male voices, especially quiet talkers.
SO DOES THIS MEAN WE SHOULD START SPEAKING UP A BIT SO YOU CAN HEAR US? :D
PETER_MARY
noodle
1st June 2005, 11:02 AM
Who knew? My cat is a punk! LOL All he needs is a leather jacket and some Doc Martens thug boots.
LOL....now that is funny. I should try some on my cat (also have two dogs).
Funny that Peter_Mary brought up the Travelling Willburys. My 15-year-old son and I were just talking about them yesterday after I bought one of Tom Petty's greatest hits albums from the bargain bin at Borders. And George Harrison was always my favorite Beatle.
My daughter recently introduced my husband and I to Cake, and I like their stuff. And if I'm needing a pick-me-up, I have been known to turn on some ska - like Reel Big Fish (another contribution from my daughter).
Also enjoy: Keb Mo, Patti Larkin, Anders Osborne (he's really entertaining), Miles Davis, etc.
dogzilla
1st June 2005, 11:17 AM
SO DOES THIS MEAN WE SHOULD START SPEAKING UP A BIT SO YOU CAN HEAR US? :D
PETER_MARY
What? Can't hear you!
:D
peter_mary
1st June 2005, 11:32 AM
What? Can't hear you!
:D
::whispering::
Just as I had hoped...now we are free to talk about Dogzilla without her even being aware! Perfect...anyone want to hear what I heard REALLY happened at Mexico Beach last week? :D
Peter_Mary
dogzilla
1st June 2005, 01:00 PM
::whispering::
Just as I had hoped...now we are free to talk about Dogzilla without her even being aware! Perfect...anyone want to hear what I heard REALLY happened at Mexico Beach last week? :D
Peter_Mary
Did I mention that I can read lips? :p
aether
1st June 2005, 01:25 PM
I remember a couple years ago in seminary my teacher had a yearly ritual that everyone bring in their "unholy" CDs and nail them to the wall after breaking them in half. I never did anything like that (I knew I would regret it, and also I thought that all my music was fine). But then someone had nailed some CDs to the wall that I owned and thought were great (like Savage Garden. How is Savage Garden evil??). I felt so guilty for not being strong enough to break my CDs. I remember my friend asked me to take her Mormon Tabernacle Choir CDs and nail them to the wall when no one was looking.. but I don't remember if I ever did it or not. If so, I never got caught for it. Pity.
As to my tastes in music.. I'm still a young'un. I like the modern stuff like The Killers, Blue Man Group, Modest Mouse, Franz Ferdinand.. I'm sure most of those would be labelled unrighteous by the church. The Killers have songs about sex and death.. Modest Mouse swears a lot.. Franz Ferdinand has a song about homosexuality.. yeah I'm evil I know. But I also love Moody Blues and Simon and Garfunkel, so maybe it redeems me.
dogzilla
1st June 2005, 02:04 PM
Hey, I like Modest Mouse. Turns out, I also love The Gorillaz and Fatboy Slim.
When I was your age, aether, [warning: old fogey statement coming up] we were told that only two bands/artists were banned, besides the soundtrack of Jesus Christ Superstar: Black Sabbath and Prince. [/old fogey]
Which brings me to this: Why do church authorities feel it's necessary to a) ban music and b) otherwise insult your intelligence by assuming that if you listen to band A, you will immediately run out and do everything suggested in the songs and will henceforth burn in hell as a result of listening to it? It seems so stupid to me. That, and Prince had a great instrumental called "God" -- he really is quite a devout Christian... who happens to sing about sex a lot. So what? Didn't anybody learn anything from the 2LiveCrew incident? (Ft. Lauderdale banned a live performance and whammo! 2LiveCrew shot up through the charts and got a gold record. Had they not been banned, this second rate, lousy-ass rap act would have remained a one hit wonder and spent the rest of their lives in relative obscurity. Now, even most reformed TBMs can probably tell me who 2LiveCrew is. Bad publicity = good publicity. If you don't want us to listen to it, have a GA recommend it in General Conference! LOL)
dum dum dum dum dummmmmm....
aether
1st June 2005, 02:44 PM
Hey, I like Modest Mouse. Turns out, I also love The Gorillaz and Fatboy Slim.
Dogzilla, you are a very cool old fogey. :D
When I was your age, aether, [warning: old fogey statement coming up] we were told that only two bands/artists were banned, besides the soundtrack of Jesus Christ Superstar: Black Sabbath and Prince. [/old fogey]
Which brings me to this: Why do church authorities feel it's necessary to a) ban music and b) otherwise insult your intelligence by assuming that if you listen to band A, you will immediately run out and do everything suggested in the songs and will henceforth burn in hell as a result of listening to it? It seems so stupid to me. That, and Prince had a great instrumental called "God" -- he really is quite a devout Christian... who happens to sing about sex a lot. So what? Didn't anybody learn anything from the 2LiveCrew incident? (Ft. Lauderdale banned a live performance and whammo! 2LiveCrew shot up through the charts and got a gold record. Had they not been banned, this second rate, lousy-ass rap act would have remained a one hit wonder and spent the rest of their lives in relative obscurity. Now, even most reformed TBMs can probably tell me who 2LiveCrew is. Bad publicity = good publicity. If you don't want us to listen to it, have a GA recommend it in General Conference! LOL)
dum dum dum dum dummmmmm....
Well I've heard the reasons for it several times.. it's that AGE-old boiling frog story (I think you might have even heard of it) If you put a frog in cold water and slowly bring it to a boil it will stay in the water and eventually die. But if you put it in boiling water right away it'll jump out. That's a metaphor for letting evil into our life. If we let it in a little bit at a time (a little bit of bad music, a little bit of bad language, a little bit of heavy make-out sessions) they'll turn into huge problems that will ruin the rest of your life. Yeah whatever. I was always offended that the church leaders assumed that I had NO measure of self-control. And I still don't get how this music I listen to is so bad.
dogzilla
1st June 2005, 03:28 PM
Dogzilla, you are a very cool old fogey. :D
Damn straight.
:D
I guess you're right about the Boiling Frog Theory (band name!) but I still think it's stupid. Just like watching old Road Runner cartoons does not cause me to go buy ACME rockets and blow stuff up...
I just wondered. Where did Wile E. Coyote get all that money? S'pose he had some sort of business on the side, like those dope-dealin' mystery solvers in Scooby Doo?
elder_nomo
1st June 2005, 03:47 PM
Damn straight.
:D
I guess you're right about the Boiling Frog Theory (band name!) but I still think it's stupid. Just like watching old Road Runner cartoons does not cause me to go buy ACME rockets and blow stuff up...
I just wondered. Where did Wile E. Coyote get all that money? S'pose he had some sort of business on the side, like those dope-dealin' mystery solvers in Scooby Doo?
The first time I ever heard the "boiling frog theory" was when I was investigating the mormon church! Somebody was trying to warn me that they would suck me in little by little and I wouldn't realize it until it was too late. Now there was a prophetic statement!
templenamesarah
1st June 2005, 04:57 PM
Just curious as to what types of music Post-Mos listen to. Do you find certain music/lyrics prophetic? Since I turned the big 5-0 last year, I'm clearly a child of ... the 60s and 70s (and you thought I was gonna say "of God" :p ).
I have loved reading everyone's responses. I love musicals and I participate in musical theater a great deal. Currently I am playing Grace Farrell in my community theater's production of Annie. I have the Annie CD in my car. I got the new Broadway recording of 1776 with Brent Spiner as John Adams. I didn't know he could sing. He's really good! Also, I got the CD to Grease, as my parents had forbidden me to see/hear that particular show when I was a kid. I like a lot of that music, but it took a few listens for me to realize that "Greased Lightning" is a dirty song!
My other latest fave is AC/DC greatest hits. :)
o/~ Yeah yeah yeah YOU shook me aallllllllllllllll niiiiiiiiiiiiiight loooooooooooong! o/~
dancinfree
1st June 2005, 05:12 PM
I pretty much all kinds of music...always loved pop music..especially those that make me want to get up and move baby!! Recently I've started liking..dare I say....country music...AAAHHH, I thought I'd never see the day..it's not just that I'm getting old, I like to think that I'm now more open minded..hehehe. Keith Urban rocks and he's cute to boot..not bad!! Tim McGraw...nice stuff. I also love hip/hop jammin music..(as my daughter shakes her head in unbelief...she doesn't like it all that much)...gotta luv a little 50cent. Most favorites are Sting, Fleetwood Mac, REM, Manheim Steamroller, Moody Blues, Elton John, Joss Stone (an up and comer), Rascall Flatts, 50 first dates, the Killers, Janet Jackson, Prince (basically anything jammin!) There's so much more but I think you get the basic idea.....Turn it UP!!
noodle
1st June 2005, 06:07 PM
Sick - hadn't heard the Boiling Frog Theory before. Glad that I missed out on that one.
Jesus Christ Superstar is one of my all-time favorites, and in high school, the album brought me "closer to Jesus" than anything else. I've seen it performed twice as an adult, and it is one of my 15-year-old's favorite musicals. We have it on DVD.
mamajama
noodle
1st June 2005, 06:14 PM
I love musicals and I participate in musical theater a great deal. Currently I am playing Grace Farrell in my community theater's production of Annie. ~
That is way cool - a thespian in our midst! I really like most musicals as well. My sister was a theater/dance major, and played lead roles in many musicals at her small college. I love watching musicals and listening to the music. However, I was always too chicken to perform like my sis did.
mamajama
templenamesarah
1st June 2005, 06:25 PM
That is way cool - a thespian in our midst! I really like most musicals as well. My sister was a theater/dance major, and played lead roles in many musicals at her small college. I love watching musicals and listening to the music. However, I was always too chicken to perform like my sis did.
mamajama
I'm a dedicated member of the Play and Thespian community. ;) We "alternative lifestylers" aren't warmly welcomed by the Morg. :D
Born Free
1st June 2005, 07:44 PM
My musical tastes are all over the shop, but some of my favourites of recent times are:
Eva Cassidy's various albums (her version of Danny Boy brought tears to my eyes as I previewed it in the store - what is it about that song?)
Lundon Wainwright 111 - Last Man on Earth (which I chased down after Geldoff ranked it one of his favourites of last year)
Ray Charles, Miles Davis, Billie Holiday, Glen Miller.
Willie Nelson (his range of material and authenticity always amazes me), Kristoffensen, Waylon Jennings
Beatles, Beach Boys, Roy Orbison, Everley Brothers
I think the 60s was an amazing period to be a teenager through. I regret I was not more open to the best it had to offer due to Mo-induced paranoia. The anal response to JC Superstar for instance.
Daryl
noodle
1st June 2005, 10:10 PM
[INDENT]Eva Cassidy's various albums (her version of Danny Boy brought tears to my eyes as I previewed it in the store - what is it about that song?)
Daryl
I think that her "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" is the prettiest version ever, and it always amazes me, no matter how many times I listen to it. Too bad that her life was cut short.
mamajama
Born Free
1st June 2005, 10:18 PM
I think that her "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" is the prettiest version ever, and it always amazes me, no matter how many times I listen to it. Too bad that her life was cut short.
mamajama
mamajama,
As I wrote the above, I knew there was another track that had the same impact, but was too lazy to go through to the living room to check out what it was.
That was it. I have loved that track since Billy Thorpe did a version of it in the 60s here. Eva's version stands the hair up on the back of my neck. So intimate, with a voice like crystal.
Some times I wonder if there are people who only get limited time, so pack in some powerful performances in their limited stint!
Daryl
helemon
1st June 2005, 10:51 PM
Just curious as to what types of music Post-Mos listen to.
Primarily my tastes lean toward 80's punk/new wave/alternative is generally all good.
Number one favorite band U2. I have tickets to their concert in St.Louis! :D I don't think there is a song or album of theirs that I don't like. Oingo is good, INXS, Tompson Twins. HoJo if I am feeling poppy but haven't listened to him in a looong time.
Don't care much for grunge.
I do like some speed metal occasionally because of the fast tempo and the fact that you can't understand them. Kinda like white noise on meth. Mistress Juliya on FUSE is the hottest vj on TV. :slap:
I also like opera, classical music and musicals.
I like bluegrass as well because of the speed of the fiddling.
I like a lot of the new artists. Green Day is great. Joss Stone is hot and has a sexy voice. Black Eyed Peas are very cool.
Also like the classics like the Beatles and some Beach Boys and occasionally some Elvis. :eek:
Rush is good and Styx.
As for country music I like Dwight Yokam, and Sawyer Brown. Toby Keith has some funny songs, but I also like the spunk of his mortal enemy ;) Natelie Maines (definitely the cutest of the three chicks!) I like some of Junior Browns songs and Cletus T. Judd is a hoot.
nate
2nd June 2005, 04:10 PM
My current favorite bands/artists include, but are not limited to:
Radiohead
Tool
A Perfect Circle (my idea of "mellow")
Incubus
The White Stripes
Chevelle
Saliva
NIN (Nine Inch Nails to the uninitiated)
The Chemical Brothers
Moby
Jane's Addiction
And much, much more
I have to agree with Dogzilla on most of these (however, not too big on Chevelle). Others that are definitely worth mentioning are:
Beck
Bright Eyes
Django Reinhardt
Elbow
The Faint
Jack Johnson
Zeppelin and Floyd (OF COURSE!!)
Mad Season
Mars Volta
Muse
Primus
Queens of the Stone Age
Rage Against the Machine
The Stones
Thomas Newman
I could go on for hours. My all time favorites, however, are Pink Floyd, Tool, Led Zeppelin & Radiohead.
Not sure if any of the lyrics by any of these could be considered "prophetic", but wise, creative, passionate and intuitive sure! If any of them are prophetic, I'd have to say Tool.
Here is one of my favorites by them.
Lateralus:
Black then white are all I see in my infancy.
red and yellow then came to be, reaching out to me.
lets me see.
As below, so above and beyond, I imagine
drawn beyond the lines of reason.
Push the envelope. Watch it bend.
Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind.
Withering my intuition, missing opportunities and I must
Feed my will to feel my moment drawing way outside the lines.
Black then white are all I see in my infancy.
red and yellow then came to be, reaching out to me.
lets me see there is so much more
and beckons me to look through to these infinite possibilities.
As below, so above and beyond, I imagine
drawn outside the lines of reason.
Push the envelope. Watch it bend.
Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind.
Withering my intuition leaving all these opportunities behind.
Feed my will to feel this moment urging me to cross the line.
Reaching out to embrace the random.
Reaching out to embrace whatever may come.
I embrace my desire to
feel the rhythm, to feel connected
enough to step aside and weep like a widow
to feel inspired, to fathom the power,
to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain,
to swing on the spiral
of our divinity and still be a human.
With my feet upon the ground I lose myself
between the sounds and open wide to suck it in,
I feel it move across my skin.
I'm reaching up and reaching out,
I'm reaching for the random or what ever will bewilder me.
And following our will and wind we may just go where no one's been.
We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no one's been.
Spiral out. Keep going, going...
dogzilla
2nd June 2005, 05:20 PM
Hi, Nate. I'm a Tool addict as well.
:: pauses for obligatory "Hi Dogzilla!"::
Musically, we're kindred spirits. I'll see your list and raise you The Stone Roses, Audioslave and Velvet Revolver.
flotsam
2nd June 2005, 06:23 PM
Two words.
Michael McLean!
aether
2nd June 2005, 06:27 PM
Two words.
Michael McLean!
..Are you being sarcastic or not? *confused*
noodle
2nd June 2005, 06:58 PM
Well, I'm feeling sortof like an old fart, especially having read Dogzilla's and Nate's list. However, I have listened to Moby and Jack Johnson (and really like both!), and I've HEARD of a few of the others ::needing reassurance that I'm not an old fart::
With that said, I want to add the following to my list (guess I never really had a list):
Ella Fitzgerald
Squirrel Nut Zippers
Ellis Paul
Brooks Williams
Grateful Dead
Van Morrison
I think y'all need to check out Anders Osborne at this Amazon link. Scroll down to Stoned, Drunk, and Naked, and celebrate your No-Mo-ness. He's a Swede who grew up in the Baltic states, but lives now in New Orleans. There is some cajun flavor to it, but also a blues, jazz, and rock (and or) roll touch as well. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000059LEP/qid=1117756216/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/002-8294228-8449667
mamajama
elder_nomo
2nd June 2005, 07:22 PM
Well, I'm feeling sortof like an old fart, especially having read Dogzilla's and Nate's list. However, I have listened to Moby and Jack Johnson (and really like both!), and I've HEARD of a few of the others ::needing reassurance that I'm not an old fart::
Well, mamajama, if you're an old fart, I'm an ancient one. My love is classical - you know, music by dead guys.
I am an amateur musician, play in community orchestra, etc. It is the passion and joy of my life (except of course for my Dear Partner ). I find such power and emotion in music, very much like something I would have once called a "spiritual" experience.
Anyway, I'm not completely an old poop. I do enjoy other kinds of music - rock, pop, country.
I have even listened to the "Rolling Who"
[obscure AbFab reference here... anyone?]
darkslider
2nd June 2005, 07:35 PM
Personal list of favorites.
Smashing Pumpkins. This band is what led to my getting kicked out of seminary.
U2.
Tantric.
Our Lady Peace.
The Ataris.
Pachelbel's Canon.
Beethoven.
Bach.
Hank Williams Jr.
Kenny Rogers.
Any musical. Like someone else mentioned, I too, am a thespian. I do technical theater for our local community theater. SCERA. All time favorite musical? The Scarlet Pimpernel.
I am not as big a fan of opera. . . I don't speak fluent enough Italian to hear it in original form. . . and I don't speak nearly enough Russian . . . and those are about the only kind of opera's that I enjoy.
Edit: I also enjoy The Pixies, any Vocal Trance music. . . and some grunge.
flotsam
2nd June 2005, 08:14 PM
..Are you being sarcastic or not? *confused*
I believe that is the biggest insult I've ever received in my entire life.
helemon
2nd June 2005, 08:17 PM
Two words.
Michael McLean!
Before or after the nervous breakdown? :slap:
templenamesarah
2nd June 2005, 08:43 PM
I am not as big a fan of opera. . . I don't speak fluent enough Italian to hear it in original form. . . and I don't speak nearly enough Russian . . . and those are about the only kind of opera's that I enjoy.
IME, you don't need to have any understanding of the native language of an opera in order to really enjoy it. Most opera performances display the English translation on a screen above the stage. If you have a basic understanding of the story, that can often be enough.
If you don't want to mess with foreign languages, you could go for American opera. Porgy and Bess is awesome, and all in English. Gilbert and Sullivan (not American, I know!) did a number of famous and very accessible operettas.
Russian opera is so moving, and just awesome, musically. I rarely get to experience it live.
One day I want to see Aida on stage so I can groove on the elephants. :)
templenamesarah
2nd June 2005, 08:47 PM
Two words.
Michael McLean!
ROFL! OMG, I sold all my Michael McLean dreck on EBay.
Now, if we can only get Janice Kapp Perry et al to stop producing their formulaic, dreadful schlock.
noodle
2nd June 2005, 09:39 PM
So, have I missed something? Is Michael McLean Mo? I seem to remember that he taught some at Utah State University as a "guest professor" in the music dept., but I'm not aware of his religious preference. BTW, I do like Gladys Knight :) Do you think she can get GBH grooving to "A Midnight Train to Georgia? He'd make a good Pip!
helemon
3rd June 2005, 11:01 AM
So, have I missed something? Is Michael McLean Mo? I seem to remember that he taught some at Utah State University as a "guest professor" in the music dept., but I'm not aware of his religious preference. BTW, I do like Gladys Knight :) Do you think she can get GBH grooving to "A Midnight Train to Georgia? He'd make a good Pip!
Yes he is Mo. All of his work is Mocentric. His nervous breakdown was in part, from what I heard, due to a Sunday School teacher he had as a kid using a visual aid to teach the lesson of repentance. The story goes that she showed the kids the smooth undamaged board to represent the sinless soul. She then hammered nails into the board to represent the effects of sin. She then proceeded to remove the nails from the board to represent repentance. But then she told that kids that their sould would remain scarred and damaged!!! :eek:
He eventually came to the conclusion that Christs atonement restored the soul to its original pristine state rather than the scarred and damage state his teacher had told him about.
peter_mary
3rd June 2005, 11:15 AM
...you're an old fart...join the club.
Well, I'm feeling sortof like an old fart, especially having read Dogzilla's and Nate's list. However, I have listened to Moby and Jack Johnson (and really like both!), and I've HEARD of a few of the others ::needing reassurance that I'm not an old fart::
mamajama
My own boys would know ALL the bands that dogzilla and nate are talking about, many whom they've cast aside as "sellouts" (they are absolute muscial elitist snobs). All I know is that I not only can't stand to listen to most of what they play on their stereo, I also can't stand to listen to most of what they produce in our studio. Tragically, the room is not adequately insulated, and so I hear LOT of what they produce in the studio, at volumes so extreme that I lose the ability to think, and usually have to leave the house and calm myself with chips and salsa or Coldstone Ice Cream.
I proudly admit my old-fartedness in this regard, because I am still in posession of functioning ear drums.
Interestingly, there is a resurgence among my boys' generation in some very interesting bands/singers. My 16 year old is positively obsessed with Dream Theater, and my 18 year old is a budding Dead-Head (Grateful Dead fan for the uninitiated). They are also BIG fans of the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band and Cat Stevens...so go figure. They love the Doors, the Eagles, Rush and Steve Miller, too. Huh...
Peter_Mary
miss taken
3rd June 2005, 11:15 AM
Yes he is Mo. All of his work is Mocentric. His nervous breakdown was in part, from what I heard, due to a Sunday School teacher he had as a kid using a visual aid to teach the lesson of repentance. The story goes that she showed the kids the smooth undamaged board to represent the sinless soul. She then hammered nails into the board to represent the effects of sin. She then proceeded to remove the nails from the board to represent repentance. But then she told that kids that their sould would remain scarred and damaged!!! :eek:
He eventually came to the conclusion that Christs atonement restored the soul to its original pristine state rather than the scarred and damage state his teacher had told him about.
oooh that must have been a standard lesson then, cause we got that one too!!!!
Mary
noodle
3rd June 2005, 03:15 PM
...you're an old fart...join the club.
My own boys would know ALL the bands that dogzilla and nate are talking about, many whom they've cast aside as "sellouts" (they are absolute muscial elitist snobs). All I know is that I not only can't stand to listen to most of what they play on their stereo, I also can't stand to listen to most of what they produce in our studio. Tragically, the room is not adequately insulated, and so I hear LOT of what they produce in the studio, at volumes so extreme that I lose the ability to think, and usually have to leave the house and calm myself with chips and salsa or Coldstone Ice Cream.
I proudly admit my old-fartedness in this regard, because I am still in posession of functioning ear drums.
Interestingly, there is a resurgence among my boys' generation in some very interesting bands/singers. My 16 year old is positively obsessed with Dream Theater, and my 18 year old is a budding Dead-Head (Grateful Dead fan for the uninitiated). They are also BIG fans of the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band and Cat Stevens...so go figure. They love the Doors, the Eagles, Rush and Steve Miller, too. Huh...
Peter_Mary
My 3 kids have always liked the bands that my husband and I listened to, which is cool. My 15-year-old loves Cat Stevens and Credence. However, he likes Modest Mouse and some of the newer groups listed by those on the board who are a titch younger than me.
::leaving the computer in search of my box of Depends:: Sigh... Perhaps I'll hobble over to Coldstone. Why did you have to mention that? :D
Peace out,
mamajama
dogzilla
3rd June 2005, 05:03 PM
...you're an old fart...join the club.
My own boys would know ALL the bands that dogzilla and nate are talking about, many whom they've cast aside as "sellouts" (they are absolute muscial elitist snobs). All I know is that I not only can't stand to listen to most of what they play on their stereo, I also can't stand to listen to most of what they produce in our studio. <snip>
Peter_Mary
I'll say it again: If it's too loud, you're too old.
Next time your boys call one of the great bands Nate and I are talking about "sellouts", please refer them to a version of this: http://www.toolband.com/album/index.html (you'll probably going to want to edit this, but you're apostate so mebbe not...) Note: Click on "album" then "lyrics" then "Aenima." Scroll down to the song "Hooker with a Penis" (The title alone will make you go read the lyrics! :P)
That's what I think of the term "sellouts."
:D
helemon
3rd June 2005, 05:16 PM
oooh that must have been a standard lesson then, cause we got that one too!!!!
Mary
:eek: Glad I didn't get it. I thought it was just some twisted womans idea of repentance. I wonder if that concept could be found in a church sunday school manual or from some church leaders talk?
aether
3rd June 2005, 05:46 PM
I believe that is the biggest insult I've ever received in my entire life.
Hey now.. I didn't mean it like that. I have a Michael Mclean CD, from my TBM days, and I still listen to some of his songs sometimes.
helemon
3rd June 2005, 07:35 PM
http://www.lyricsfreak.com/r/rush/119963.html
Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson
There are those who think that life
Has nothing left to chance
With a host of holy horrors
To direct our aimless dance
A planet of playthings
We dance on the strings
Of powers we cannot perceive
The stars aren’t aligned ---
Or the gods are malign
Blame is better to give than receive
You can choose a ready guide
In some celestial voice
If you choose not to decide
You still have made a choice
You can choose from phantom fears
And kindness that can kill
I will choose a path that’s clear
I will choose free will
There are those who think that they’ve been dealt a losing hand
The cards were stacked against them ---
They weren’t born in lotus-land
All preordained
A prisoner in chains
A victim of venomous fate
Kicked in the face
You can’t pray for a place
In heaven’s unearthly estate
Each of us
A cell of awareness
Imperfect and incomplete
Genetic blends
With uncertain ends
On a fortune hunt
That’s far too fleet...
helemon
3rd June 2005, 07:41 PM
I'll say it again: If it's too loud, you're too old.
http://www.earthstar.co.uk/area.htm
"Disaster Area, a plutonium rock band from the Gagrakacka Mind Zones, are generally held to be not only the loudest rock band in the Galaxy, but in fact the loudest noise of any kind at all. Regular concert goers judge that the best sound balance is usually to be heard from within large concrete bunkers some thirty-seven miles from the stage, whilst the musicians themselves play their instruments by remote control from within a heavily insulated spaceship which stays in orbit around the planet - or more frequently around a completely different planet.
Their songs are on the whole very simple and mostly follow the familiar theme of boy-being meets girl-being beneath a silvery moon, which then explodes for no adequately explored reason.
Many worlds have now banned their act altogether, sometimes for artistic reasons, but most commonly because the band's public address system contravenes local strategic arms limitations treaties.
This has not, however, stopped their earnings from pushing back the boundaries of pure hypermathematics, and their chief research accountant has recently been appointed Professor of Neomathematics at the University of Maximegalon, in recognition of both his General and his Special Theories of Disaster Area Tax Returns, in which he proves that the whole fabric of the space- time continuum is not merely curved, it is in fact totally bent."
noodle
4th June 2005, 11:16 PM
So, have I missed something? Is Michael McLean Mo? I seem to remember that he taught some at Utah State University as a "guest professor" in the music dept., but I'm not aware of his religious preference. BTW, I do like Gladys Knight :) Do you think she can get GBH grooving to "A Midnight Train to Georgia? He'd make a good Pip!
Correction!
Oops...I was thinking of Michael Martin Murphey. Must've been having a brain fart. He taught a class (I think) at USU. My bad.
mindbender
5th June 2005, 02:31 AM
Two words.
Michael McLean!but who is michael Mclean
helemon
5th June 2005, 03:54 AM
but who is michael Mclean
http://www.ldsmusicworld.com/artists/michael_mclean.html
taruleo
5th June 2005, 09:46 AM
When I was growing up My mother would only allow oldies to be played. (Apparently songs about sex were fine as long as she was familiar with them.) We started to work in a little bit of current music and any time it would swear my brother and I would randomly develop Tourette's Syndrome and yell something to cover it up. My mom would just say that we were silly and never noticed that some how without any communication between us we were able to yell at exactly the same time.
My brother cam home from EFY one year and threw away all the devils music that he had secreted away. He has been kicking himself ever since for being so stupid. One moment of weekness and 4 years of effort and money collecting cd's was gone.
Needless to say oldies are not my favorite. I like everything else to some extent. Cake, Silverchair, and the earlier Incubus albums are my favorites. I love jazz and bluegrass. These days I even sing along with the songs and say all the swear words, sometimes with gusto :eek: ! (shock and dismay from the family corner)
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