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helemon
5th June 2005, 01:21 AM
I thought Dogzilla would like this:
http://northernway.org/hgoddess.html
"Asherah was also widely known in the Middle Eastern ancient world as a Goddess of Healing. Then She was removed forcibly from the Old Testament Hebrew Scriptures around 400 or 500 B.C. Her priestesses & priests, known by the headbands they wore, "
So that is why Lehi and his family fled jerusalem!
http://www.meridianmagazine.com/images/friberg/originals/FribergNephiBoat.jpg
"Daughter of Zion, a term found numerous times in the Old Testament, was perhaps a term for a priestess of Asherah."
"She was the wife of El in Ugaritic mythology, and is the goddess who is also called Athirau-Yammi: "She Who Walks on (or in) the Sea." "
Hmmm, who else did that trick? :duh Does this mean that Jesus was a priest of Asherah?
"As Dr. Patai states, "... it would be strange if the Hebrew-Jewish religion, which flourished for centuries in a region of intensive goddess cults, had remained immune to them." Archaeologists have uncovered Hebrew settlements where the goddesses Asherah and Astarte-Anath were routinely worshipped. And in fact, we find that for about 3,000 years, the Hebrews worshipped female deities which were later eradicated only by extreme pressure of the male-dominated priesthood.
And then there's the matter of the Cherubim that sat atop the Ark of the Covenant in the Holy of Holies. Fashioned by Phoenician craftsmen for Solomon and Ahab, an ivory tablet shows two winged females facing each other. And one tablet shows male and female members of the Cherubim embracing in an explicitly sexual position that embarrassed later Jewish historians ... and even the pagans were shocked when they saw it for the first time. [The Star of David, two triangles "embracing" became the coded symbol for God & Goddess locked in a "creating" posture....!]
This cult of the feminine goddess, though often repressed, remained a part of the faith of the Jewish people. Goddesses answered the need for mother, lover, queen, intercessor ... and even today, lingers cryptically in the traditional Hebrew Sabbath invocation. "
Makes you wonder if Mormonism couldn't benefit from more revelation and worship of Mother in Heaven?
noodle
5th June 2005, 09:01 AM
OOOOOO....check out them muscles. Do you think they work-out? :D
helemon
5th June 2005, 10:53 AM
OOOOOO....check out them muscles. Do you think they work-out? :D
Building a ship capable of transoceanic travel from scratch in a desert is not a job for wimps!! :D
bigeddy
5th June 2005, 11:16 AM
I am so impressed with the movement of so many people toward bringing back the divine feminine. I think it is essential for our progress as humans.
Masculine energy has dominated the world, particularly the western world, for so long that we have suffered a kind of terrible imbalance. I believe that understanding and embracing the divine feminine is an important way out of our imbalance that is destroying the world.
So here is another link to the notion that the divine feminine always was a part of our past. A part that was buried due to the fear masculinity has of the divine feminine.
COOL!!
Ed
nate
5th June 2005, 01:59 PM
I just found this, while browsing around.
http://www.enzo.co.kr/port/dawit1.html
Interesting
nate
5th June 2005, 02:21 PM
Asherah was the goddess of fertility, and was worshipped under many different names. She was Asherah to the Canaanites, Isis to the Egyptians, Venus /Aphrodite to the Romans/Greeks, and Ishtar in Babylon.
If you go back even further, it originates with basic star worship; the diefication of the star we know as Venus. It was used as a calendar and told the people when to plant/harvest their crops, and even when to impregnate the woman. There were sexual festivals that correlated with the passing of the star (also known as the Morning Star (as Jesus is referred to in the Bible). This was also important in the Egyptian king-raising ceremonies, which included a symbolic death and resurrection (not too dissimilar from the modern-day Master Mason raising ceremony).
Even after babylon, in the Jeruselum temple, there were sexual rites done during the passing of the morning star, where woman would enter the temple, and under the light of the star, become impregnated by the priest. However, the child was thought to be the child of the diety, and not the child of the priest.
helemon
5th June 2005, 04:33 PM
Even after babylon, in the Jeruselum temple, there were sexual rites done during the passing of the morning star, where woman would enter the temple, and under the light of the star, become impregnated by the priest. However, the child was thought to be the child of the diety, and not the child of the priest.
I wonder if Jesus the product of such a union?
templenamesarah
5th June 2005, 06:48 PM
OOOOOO....check out them muscles. Do you think they work-out? :D
Although the picture doesn't show his backside, I bet Nephi's a$$ is tight like a dish. :D
aether
5th June 2005, 08:35 PM
Although the picture doesn't show his backside, I bet Nephi's a$$ is tight like a dish. :D
LOL!!!! :D :D :D
Born Free
5th June 2005, 09:34 PM
Asherah was the goddess of fertility, and was worshipped under many different names. She was Asherah to the Canaanites, Isis to the Egyptians, Venus /Aphrodite to the Romans/Greeks, and Ishtar in Babylon.
If you go back even further, it originates with basic star worship; the diefication of the star we know as Venus. It was used as a calendar and told the people when to plant/harvest their crops, and even when to impregnate the woman. There were sexual festivals that correlated with the passing of the star (also known as the Morning Star (as Jesus is referred to in the Bible). This was also important in the Egyptian king-raising ceremonies, which included a symbolic death and resurrection (not too dissimilar from the modern-day Master Mason raising ceremony).
Even after babylon, in the Jeruselum temple, there were sexual rites done during the passing of the morning star, where woman would enter the temple, and under the light of the star, become impregnated by the priest. However, the child was thought to be the child of the diety, and not the child of the priest.
I have in my library, (partly read) Ferek and Gandy's book 'Jesus and the Lost Goddess'. They speak of the Myth of Sophia of early Gnostic Christian tradition. They claim this grew out of the Pagan Gnostic tradition.
What fascinated me about their book, is their claim that Sophia means 'wisdom', so philosophy is the 'Love of Sophia' - the love of wisdom, not in some dry acamedic sense, but in an embodied way. Her Hebrew names were Psyche, Zoe (meaning life), Achamoth (from the Hebrew for wisdom).
OK, I have reread parts of this book I had forgotten, and she is one and the same - The Goddess. It states elswhere 'At one time Israelites had worshiped the Goddess Asherah as the consort of the Jewish God Jehovah'.
OK, I clearly have to reread this book and get a deeper integrated understanding of these ideas (in an attempt to offset the monothiestic, patricahal God of late Christianity and the Mormon expression of that!
Daryl
dancinfree
5th June 2005, 10:39 PM
It is so refreshing to consider the goddess part of the divine. To allow the goddess/feminine to be recognized is empowering to me but I've also found how I am aware of how powerful the masculine aspect is needed for balance in my life. Both aspects are essential and deserve to be honored IMO. I find each day a challenge to find that balance but since my life has been mostly an upbringing of the masculine diety, it's a delight to focus on the feminine for now. I'm reading the book, "When God was a Woman" and I find it fascinating due to recommendations on this site...so thanks everyone for your input!
p.s. It also helps to imagine Nephi's ass to find that balance....hehehehe :D Thanks for the visual Templenamesarah!! Great stuff!
why me
6th June 2005, 03:56 AM
Now that I think about it, it would be nice to rest in the arms of a heavenly mother. I am sure that it would be a wonderful and lovely experience. Often the LDS consider the reaction of heavenly father but I think that the reaction of a heavenly mother would be more comforting and forgiving. I need the feminine side of forgiveness...I am tired of the masucline but the feminine side would give and draw much comfort from me... I would be made more whole and feel more warmth and serenity in the arms of a mother....and I am sure that the aroma would be more sweet also.... :)
dogzilla
6th June 2005, 08:21 AM
Although the picture doesn't show his backside, I bet Nephi's a$$ is tight like a dish. :D
:: wipes banana off monitor ::
:D
I was thinking he had an uncanny resemblance to Brigitte Neilsen in Red Sonia http://www.impawards.com/1985/red_sonja.html
aether
6th June 2005, 11:47 AM
Now that I think about it, it would be nice to rest in the arms of a heavenly mother. I am sure that it would be a wonderful and lovely experience. Often the LDS consider the reaction of heavenly father but I think that the reaction of a heavenly mother would be more comforting and forgiving.
It's one of my lifelong dreams.. if I ever get brave enough.. to go to church one day and then in Sunday School, volunteer to say the prayer.. and then pray to Heavenly Mother. Could the bishop get after me? They say they do believe in Her, after all. I just want to know what would happen...
helemon
6th June 2005, 04:59 PM
It's one of my lifelong dreams.. if I ever get brave enough.. to go to church one day and then in Sunday School, volunteer to say the prayer.. and then pray to Heavenly Mother. Could the bishop get after me? They say they do believe in Her, after all. I just want to know what would happen...
I seem to recall some members down around Provo getting in trouble for praying to Mother in Heaven. I can't remember if they were exed or just severely chastised.
aether
6th June 2005, 06:55 PM
I seem to recall some members down around Provo getting in trouble for praying to Mother in Heaven. I can't remember if they were exed or just severely chastised.
:eek: Would someone really be excommunicated for that?? I hope not... Was there an article about it somewhere that I could read?
nate
6th June 2005, 07:12 PM
:eek: Would someone really be excommunicated for that?? I hope not... Was there an article about it somewhere that I could read?
Here is some stuff to read on this:
http://www.lds-mormon.com/ja1.shtml
Nate
aether
6th June 2005, 08:16 PM
Here is some stuff to read on this:
http://www.lds-mormon.com/ja1.shtml
Nate
Um.. the link isn't working for me. Is it incorrect, or is there something screwy with my computer?
EDIT: Never mind.. I have determined that something is definitely screwy with my computer.
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