Speaking of nekkidness-temple ordinance changed??

[silverfox]

My disclaimer - I haven't researched this, don't know if it's REALLY TRUE but I just received an email from a reliable fellow post mo who is telling me that the annointing ordinance is being revamped and there will be no more nekkidness. No more touching the nekkid body while being annointed.

Has anyone heard anything about this?

I just find it amusing. There are still folks who claim we never had to mimick disemboweling ourselves or slashing our own throats. Soon people will pretend they never had to stand nekkid in the temple and be touched.

What do you think they will change next? I don't remember a lot of the temple garbledygook but funny how I've always rememberd the gruesome parts. (I'm sure that was ol' Joe's intention to scare us into compliance)

[Born Free]

What do you think they will change next? I don't remember a lot of the temple garbledygook but funny how I've always rememberd the gruesome parts. (I'm sure that was ol' Joe's intention to scare us into compliance)

Silverfox,

I have heard nothing of the developments, but I am always amused that changes to what we were told is the most sacred of sacred earthly ordinances are all made on the run, as in no revelation is every claimed as the gateway. If this change turns out to be true as well, no doubt it will follow the same subtle introduction as the previous large changes.

I wonder sometimes if there is something added to the sacrament water that promotes medium to long term memory loss in Mormons. So many seem to have amnesia on these shifts across time. They also seem to not have the capacity to see what the big picture of all these changes on numerous fronts, look like. In isolation the significance of many is not as evident, but the whole is greater than the sum of the parts.

Viewed from that level what is claimed to be 'eternal and unchanging' is in fact in perpetual chameleon-like change.

[nate]

Silverfox,

I wonder sometimes if there is something added to the sacrament water that promotes medium to long term memory loss in Mormons. So many seem to have amnesia on these shifts across time.

As most of us have, I've prepared and blessed the sacrament countless times, and can attest that nothing is added to the water; and WonderBread TM is making a killing!

No, the culture of the church does more than enough to induce people to drug themselves with denial and suppressed doubt.

Nate

[silverfox]

As most of us have, I've prepared and blessed the sacrament countless times, and can attest that nothing is added to the water; and WonderBread TM is making a killing!

No, the culture of the church does more than enough to induce people to drug themselves with denial and suppressed doubt.

Nate

What? Wonderbread? You got Wonderbread??? I don't know what kind of bread is used in most of the wards I've been in but it ain't Wonderbread. More dry and crumbly. The kind that sticks flat dab in the middle of your throat and that little sip of water ain't gonna budge it.

[nate]

What? Wonderbread? You got Wonderbread??? I don't know what kind of bread is used in most of the wards I've been in but it ain't Wonderbread. More dry and crumbly. The kind that sticks flat dab in the middle of your throat and that little sip of water ain't gonna budge it.


You'd be surprised! Wonderbread will do that too after a Priest's forgotten to close the bag all the way, and the same loaf of bread is used week after week (depending on the size of the ward). Another thing, it's usually handled by unenthusiatic young men who have no idea how to wash their hands properly (if they even remember).

[Jeff_Ricks]

Another thing, it's usually handled by unenthusiatic young men who have no idea how to wash their hands properly (if they even remember).


Ah yes. Now I remember why I quit going to church!!

[Born Free]

Ah yes. Now I remember why I quit going to church!!

We lived in small branch. My mother was up the health-fascist end of the spectrum, so had real problems with white bread. As my father was Branch President the responsibility to bring the bread for Sacrament was ours, so we brought what we had at home - wholemeal bread.

Can you see it coming???

At some point some authority had a problem with the wholemeal bread. So we headed off into la-la land on what was acceptable bread to represent the body of Christ.

Maybe we should have had:

White bread as a symbol of the Aryan translation of the Jewish Christ that was so unacceptable, soaked in,

Tomato sauce to represent the bloody mess that is really at the centre of the whole idea of a God that needs us to make blood sacrifices to appease him.

I have since read lots on the whole notion of the scapegoat and am highly familiar with psychological projection, so am now amused at the idea that we have to project our sins onto Christ, who is big enough to cop the medicine for us.

Cop-out central.

That raises the point that in my adult life, the two most powerful learnings that have contributed to my healthy functioning have been:

1. Projection
2. Boundaries

And when I looked to see what Moism offered in these two vital areas, I found that they were not only not helpful, but ACTIVELY modelled and promoted continual projection, and constant boundary violations.

I would be particulary interested to see what other ex-Mo counsellors, psychologists and the like make of that observation.