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peter_mary
24th August 2005, 04:16 PM
Many of you have no doubt heard the Reverend Pat Robertson, star of the long-running "700 Club", make the claim that we should assassinate President Chavez of Venezuala. Here's the latest:

VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. (AP) - Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson insisted Wednesday that he did not call for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, despite comments broadcast on his program two days earlier.

"I didn't say 'assassination,'" Robertson said Wednesday on his Christian Broadcast Network show "The 700 Club" about remarks reported by The Associated Press and other media outlets.

"I said our special forces should 'take him out."Take him out' could be a number of things including kidnapping. [Peter_Mary snipes: "Ah...kidnapping is fine, assassination is bad. Now it all makes perfect sense." :slap: )

"There are a number of ways of taking out a dictator from power besides killing him. I was misinterpreted by the AP, but that happens all the time."

But a video of Monday's telecast shows that Robertson's exact words were: "You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war, and I don't think any oil shipments will stop."

He continued: "We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability. We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with."

To me, this is a very frightening example of what is wrong with letting religion interfere with politics. Robertson feels safe making these kinds of lunatic statements because he knows that he has the support of the Christian Right.

Anyone hear airplanes headed for buildings in Caracas?

I personally don't care for the Christian right. I don't agree with their whole world view. But I respect their right to believe--privately--whatever they want. But when their world view crosses over into the politics of this country, as it has under the Bush administration (and thank ALL the god's that we've never had to say "the Robertson administration"), then it starts to impact me...and I ain't happy about it.

There really IS a good reason to keep religion out of the public sector. Pat Robertson is just the latest great example of why that's so.

Peter_Mary

helemon
24th August 2005, 04:30 PM
To me, this is a very frightening example of what is wrong with letting religion interfere with politics. Robertson feels safe making these kinds of lunatic statements because he knows that he has the support of the Christian Right.


I think Roberts needs to go back and reread a few of Christ's teachings. He seems to be forgetting a few such as:

The Golden Rule
Turn the other cheek
Love your enemies
Pray for your enemies

cactus jack
24th August 2005, 04:41 PM
I'm really amazed how someone like Robertson can make such a statement. Why attack Chavez? America isn't the only free country around. While the interaction between the Venezueian Constitution and it's actual enforcement matters a great deal, I have read the Venezuelian Constitution and it seems to be nearly as good a the American Constitution. In fact, it even encompasses language our constitution doesn't have and that change in language I think clarifies it a lot. Only thing I don't like is our second amanedmet. We, in America, have the right to keep and bear arms. Venezuelians don't. In fact, *anything* they consider to be a tool of war is automatically ceeded to the National Security Defense forces. I got a problem with that. But I also don't live there, so if that's what works for them, great! I know it doesn't work for here in America.

nate
24th August 2005, 05:31 PM
Yeah, no kiddin'! Especially after the last election, when the international inspectors reported that our electoral process is worse than that of Venezuela!! Just because we were the first successful democracy, doesn't make us the best.

And I really wouldn't have much problem with what Robertson says on the air if the President stopped meeting with him so frequently, and quit starting new programs like the Center for Faith-Based Initiatives!!

UUUHHHHHHGGG!! :mad:

I'm really amazed how someone like Robertson can make such a statement. Why attack Chavez? America isn't the only free country around. While the interaction between the Venezueian Constitution and it's actual enforcement matters a great deal, I have read the Venezuelian Constitution and it seems to be nearly as good a the American Constitution. In fact, it even encompasses language our constitution doesn't have and that change in language I think clarifies it a lot. Only thing I don't like is our second amanedmet. We, in America, have the right to keep and bear arms. Venezuelians don't. In fact, *anything* they consider to be a tool of war is automatically ceeded to the National Security Defense forces. I got a problem with that. But I also don't live there, so if that's what works for them, great! I know it doesn't work for here in America.

why me
25th August 2005, 06:27 AM
I don't like Robertson or his politics. Watchingthe 700 club as I do at times I am amazed by his gimmics for getting money from the listeners. There is usually a hard luck story and then the wonderful blessing received by the hurd luck people when they begin to give to the 700 club. Plus his constant spots about his operation blessing and the wonders that it is doing throughout the word followed by another hit for money to continue the work...Also his political commentaries leave much to be disired. I like Chavez...he is a friend of the poor and that is okay in my book.... :)

wescape
25th August 2005, 05:37 PM
I think Roberts needs to go back and reread a few of Christ's teachings. He seems to be forgetting a few such as:

The Golden Rule
Turn the other cheek
Love your enemies
Pray for your enemies

Well said Helemon. Robertson makes me nauseous and grossly misrepresents Jesus and Christian spirituality. It is unfortunate he has the ability to communicate this crap on such a large level.

Wes

cactus jack
25th August 2005, 07:18 PM
Funny, really. Because they more I hear of how religion distorts and perverts politics, I ask myself "are they talking about perverting the perverted or are they discussing the LDS and the state of Utard?"