silverfox
27th August 2005, 01:14 PM
http://www.sltrib.com/ci_2978212
Article about the new shopping malls the church now owns in SLC.
Wonder what will be so vibrant on Sundays when it's all closed? I think they should say 24/6, not 24/7.
From the article:
The church says it wants to create a vibrant, 24-7 environment in its new project, which will include retail - including Meier & Frank recast as Macy's and Nordstrom - existing offices and up to 900 units of housing.
helemon
28th August 2005, 12:46 AM
Originally posted on RfM by Samuel the Utahnite:
Because the church preaches against liquor consumption, it is distancing itself from the future restaurant operations. The church will sell land for the restaurants to an outside developer.
And there won't be any private clubs or bars opening on the blocks.
"A limited number of high-quality restaurant tenants who will operate on land not owned by the church may apply for licenses to serve alcoholic beverages in accordance with existing state regulations," Bills told The Salt Lake Tribune.
Friday was the first time the church has acknowledged the Sunday and alcohol arrangements. The announcement came first during an interview Mayor Rocky Anderson conducted with Bills and church architect Bill Williams on KCPW's "Midday Metro" radio program.
When Bills said it was the church's "goal" to allow restaurants to serve wine, Anderson responded: "That's going to be good news for a lot of people in this community."
Anyway, here are quotes by current GA's to back up my point of how the Church feels/felt about alcohol. **warning, you may laugh uncontrollably**:
Dallin H. Oaks, “Brother’s Keeper,” Ensign, Nov. 1986, 20
Wouldn't it be wonderful if this same attitude of looking after the interests of others governed Latter-day Saints who are making a profit from the sale or promotion of alcoholic beverages? Consider the terrible effects of alcohol. Alcohol-related accidents are the leading cause of death of those under twenty-five. The physical, social, and financial effects of alcohol ruin marriages and family life. By dulling inhibitions, alcohol leads to untold numbers of crimes and moral transgressions. Alcohol is the number one addictive drug in our day.
The consumption of alcohol is increasing among youth. Targeting young audiences, advertisers portray beer and wine as joyful, socially desirable, and harmless. Producers are promoting new types of alcoholic beverages as competitors in the huge soft-drink market. Grocery and convenience stores and gas stations stock alcoholic beverages side by side with soda pop. Can Christians who are involved in this commerce be indifferent to the physical and moral effects of the alcohol from which they are making their profits? (Hey, that's a great question Mr. Oaks, now answer it for us.)
Russell M. Nelson, “Joy Cometh in the Morning,” Ensign, Nov. 1986, 67
In 1833 the Prophet Joseph Smith received the Word of Wisdom by revelation. It includes these simple directives: We are not to drink alcohol, tea, or coffee, and we are not to use tobacco. Prophets in our generation and in this conference have told us also to avoid harmful drugs. Now medical science increasingly confirms the physical benefits of compliance with these teachings.
The damaging effects of alcohol are so widely known, additional comment is hardly needed. Harm inflicted by alcohol has been demonstrated, for example, by a study of the relationship between alcohol consumption among expectant mothers and the birth weight of their newborn infants. Findings published from the U. S. National Institutes of Health disclosed that consumption of one to two alcoholic drinks a day was associated with a substantially increased risk of producing a growth-retarded infant (see James L. Mills, et. al., “Maternal Alcohol consumption and Birth Weight,” Journal of the American Medical Association, 12 Oct. 1984, pp. 1875–79).
Ezra Taft Benson, “Satan’s Thrust—Youth,” Ensign, Dec. 1971, 53
The Church must not compromise standards before popular demands. Surely tobacco, coffee, and alcohol users have been alienated by uncompromising standards as much as today’s rocking miniskirts.
Using life as a laboratory, we can observe and study the lives of others as we might through a microscope. Observe that the man of God is a happy man. The hedonist, who proclaims “Do your thing,” who lives for sinful, so-called pleasure, is never happy. Behind his mask of mock gaiety lurks the inevitable tragedy of eternal death. Haunted by its black shadow, he trades the useful, happy life for the bleak forgetfulness of drugs, alcohol, sex, and rock.
Russell M. Nelson, “Addiction or Freedom,” Ensign, Nov. 1988,
Alcohol
There is mounting concern worldwide over the consumption of alcohol. The U.S. government estimates that 10.6 million adults are alcoholics and that one family in four is troubled by alcohol. It is a factor in half of all the nation’s traffic deaths.
Last year, a tragic milestone was reached. More Americans had been killed from alcohol-related motor vehicle accidents (1,350,000) than had been killed in all the wars America has ever fought (1,156,000).
Dallin H. Oaks, “Be Not Deceived,” Ensign, Nov. 2004, 43
And we must never do anything to drive away that Spirit. Specifically, we should avoid pornography, alcohol, tobacco and drugs, and always, always avoid violations of the law of chastity.
Four B's for Boys
Gordon B. Hinckley, “Four B’s for Boys,” Ensign, Nov. 1981, 40
...be so shortsighted as to indulge in the use of alcohol, tobacco, and drugs. It simply is not smart to do...
...and short-circuit your future? Beer and other forms of alcohol will do you no good. Their use will be expensive...
Look to the Future
Gordon B. Hinckley, “Look to the Future,” Ensign, Nov. 1997, 67
...But there is so much more to do among them. Alcohol and drugs literally destroy many of them. We must do...
...the family in America and across the world. Drugs and alcohol are taking a terrible toll, which is not likely to...
That We May Touch Heaven
Thomas S. Monson, “That We May Touch Heaven,” Ensign, Nov. 1990, 45
...mind and spirit. Hard drugs, wrongful use of prescription drugs, alcohol, coffee, tea, and tobacco products destroy your physical, mental, and...
...spiritual well-being. Any form of alcohol, including beer, is harmful to your spirit and your body...
Be Ye Clean"
Gordon B. Hinckley, “Be Ye Clean,” Ensign, May 1996, 46
...things and has warned us against them. Stay away from alcohol, my brethren. Never get involved in a so-called beer...
...divine. It is totally wrong for you to partake of alcohol or drugs that are forbidden by the law. Be clean...
The Joy of Hope Fulfilled
M. Russell Ballard, “The Joy of Hope Fulfilled,” Ensign, Nov. 1992, 31(He was talking about a man he knew, not himself....LOL) Wishful Thinking eh?
I was taken with the practice of free drugs, free love, free fun, and the rest of the world be damned. Beginning with my first drink of alcohol, I began to slowly deteriorate. After alcohol, other drugs were that much easier to use. In order to take drugs, you must become a good liar. You learn to do whatever it takes to conceal your behavior from others.
Gordon B. Hinckley, “Why We Do Some of the Things We Do,” Ensign, Nov. 1999, 52
Avoid alcohol as you would a loathsome disease. Beer will do to you what hard liquor will do. Each contains alcohol in varying amounts.
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