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helemon
21st September 2005, 08:44 PM
http://americanzion.com/
peter_mary
22nd September 2005, 09:12 AM
...one time hearing a testimony that indicated that they knew that the trials the Steed family endured (from the Work and the Glory book series) were true, and that it helped to strengthen their testimony of the gospel. I accidentally created a scene when I threw up right in the aisle... :Puking
I also recall a conversation I had with our Bishop, back when I was serving as his 1st Counselor. We were driving to a Stake Priesthood meeting, and I was telling him how much I was enjoying reading all about Church history (I was a gonner at that point, but hadn't admitted yet). He told me that he didn't find the history too useful, but that if I really wanted to know about Church history, I should read the Work and the Glory series. He did, and he found it to be very strengthening of his testimony.
I accidentally threw up right in the cab of his pickup truck. :Puking
Peter_Mary
helemon
22nd September 2005, 09:30 AM
...one time hearing a testimony that indicated that they knew that the trials the Steed family endured (from the Work and the Glory book series) were true, and that it helped to strengthen their testimony of the gospel. I accidentally created a scene when I threw up right in the aisle... :Puking
I also recall a conversation I had with our Bishop, back when I was serving as his 1st Counselor. We were driving to a Stake Priesthood meeting, and I was telling him how much I was enjoying reading all about Church history (I was a gonner at that point, but hadn't admitted yet). He told me that he didn't find the history too useful, but that if I really wanted to know about Church history, I should read the Work and the Glory series. He did, and he found it to be very strengthening of his testimony.
I accidentally threw up right in the cab of his pickup truck. :Puking
Peter_Mary
Hey what better way to tell the story of a pseudo historical book, and the official pseudo historical past of the church than with a psuedo historical novel.
If only there was an exmo with deep pockets that could finance a movie based on books like Brodie's or Palmer or Quinn? Hey Flotsam, how about a documentary for the history channel that covers this stuff? Good luck finding a backer though. :duh
peter_mary
22nd September 2005, 09:58 AM
Hey what better way to tell the story of a pseudo historical book, and the official pseudo historical past of the church than with a psuedo historical novel.
If only there was an exmo with deep pockets that could finance a movie based on books like Brodie's or Palmer or Quinn? Hey Flotsam, how about a documentary for the history channel that covers this stuff? Good luck finding a backer though. :duh
Interesting you should suggest that...flotsam and I once fantasized about how fun it would be to tell the same "work and glory" story, but from the perspective of the original Missouri residents in Jackson County, the original residents of western Illinois, and the Shoshones and Utes of Utah. The movie could have EVERY scene that is the Work and the Glory, but as seen through different eyes. It would be a COMPLETELY different story, eh?
Peter_Mary
helemon
22nd September 2005, 10:19 AM
Interesting you should suggest that...flotsam and I once fantasized about how fun it would be to tell the same "work and glory" story, but from the perspective of the original Missouri residents in Jackson County, the original residents of western Illinois, and the Shoshones and Utes of Utah. The movie could have EVERY scene that is the Work and the Glory, but as seen through different eyes. It would be a COMPLETELY different story, eh?
Peter_Mary
I'd pay to see it!
free thinker
22nd September 2005, 03:30 PM
P-M could you please hand me a barf bag. I find myself in the throws of convulsive vomiting.
What a bunch of damnable BS.
There are lies
Damn Lies
and
Church authorized history.
free thinker
cdunn
23rd September 2005, 10:41 AM
...one time hearing a testimony that indicated that they knew that the trials the Steed family endured (from the Work and the Glory book series) were true, and that it helped to strengthen their testimony of the gospel. I accidentally created a scene when I threw up right in the aisle... :Puking
I also recall a conversation I had with our Bishop, back when I was serving as his 1st Counselor. We were driving to a Stake Priesthood meeting, and I was telling him how much I was enjoying reading all about Church history (I was a gonner at that point, but hadn't admitted yet). He told me that he didn't find the history too useful, but that if I really wanted to know about Church history, I should read the Work and the Glory series. He did, and he found it to be very strengthening of his testimony.
I accidentally threw up right in the cab of his pickup truck. :Puking
Peter_Mary
Now that I have a sympathetic audience, I can't begin to say how much I've been bugged by the whole Mormon media market. I used to tell my wife at BYU that we needed to get out of Utah so I wouldn't lose my testimony. The number of business making money from members in the name of the church has always bothered me. You go into Deseret Book, and it's like a coffee shop. Additionally, what's the point of every GA writing a book and selling it? Do they donate the proceeds to charity? I often think of Christ overthrowing the money changers who turned the temple into a "Den of Thieves".
I watched the first episode of Work and Glory while staying with family in Utah at their urging. It didn't do much for me because I couldn't relate to make believe characters, including the depiction of JS.
peter_mary
23rd September 2005, 10:47 AM
Now that I have a sympathetic audience, I can't begin to say how much I've been bugged by the whole Mormon media market. I used to tell my wife at BYU that we needed to get out of Utah so I wouldn't lose my testimony. The number of business making money from members in the name of the church has always bothered me.
In a way, the Mormon interest in catering to only other Mormons, be it media, banking, retail, whatever, is a critical part of the social inbreeding that seems to be making hard-core Mormons more and more "insane." This is most apparent in the Provo/Orem area, where every billboard along I-15 is either about missionaries (The Missionary Mall), brides or babies. The happy-smiley-plastic people of Happy Valley seem to be becoming more and more deeply enmeshed in their self-centered world, and more and more removed from the reality.
As if we didn't know that... :D
Peter_Mary
cdunn
23rd September 2005, 12:09 PM
In a way, the Mormon interest in catering to only other Mormons, be it media, banking, retail, whatever, is a critical part of the social inbreeding that seems to be making hard-core Mormons more and more "insane." This is most apparent in the Provo/Orem area, where every billboard along I-15 is either about missionaries (The Missionary Mall), brides or babies. The happy-smiley-plastic people of Happy Valley seem to be becoming more and more deeply enmeshed in their self-centered world, and more and more removed from the reality.
As if we didn't know that... :D
Peter_Mary
Yeah, I was going to mention the billboard stuff too. I also worked at the MTC as an undergrad, while I was studying PR at BYU. I did my PR internship at LDS HQ. That was a pretty stale experience also. They hinted at hiring me full time, but I promptly mentioned I was going on to B-school. I guess I expected to feel a sense of engagement for a spiritual cause, but most folks there were lukewarm at best about what they were doing. I even had one PR professional mention that the brethren can be rather demanding at times. Looking back, if I had stayed on there, I may have been writing this commentary a few years earlier.
I visited temple square this past summer and hadn't been there in quite a while to see how the area is being turned into an "attraction". I guess the mall work is an extension of the missionary tool. I had an interesting experience when there as I was contemplating my career choices. I did have a powerful emotional experience there on temple square, but then as I was walking through the mall, stopped in a Borders or Barnes & Noble to find Compton's book because I couldn't find it in Deseret Book. I found Quinn's "Origins of ..." instead and read about stake patriach's earning money with each blessing given, and some people had multiple blessings. I thought it odd to have had the experience and then turn around and read Quinn's book for an opposite view.
free thinker
23rd September 2005, 09:48 PM
Additionally, what's the point of every GA writing a book and selling it? Do they donate the proceeds to charity? I often think of Christ overthrowing the money changers who turned the temple into a "Den of Thieves".
I have seen this estimated at about $400,000,000 per year. When a business gets that large it takes on an institutional life of it's own.
free thinker
firebird113
25th September 2005, 05:40 PM
they ready thown the bull don't they :Crazy:
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